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LeighboNZ wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

I like Milner and wouldn't mind him as a cheap utility player. Could take the place of Rosicky/Flamini and fill in a number of positions. I couldn't see regular games for him though and I imagine he would be a bit pricey for that sort of role.

Cech would be my dream signing. Still one of the top keepers in the world and should still be playing at a big club. But Mourinho wouldn't sell to Wenger and United are likely going to be in the market for a keeper this summer so I wouldn't get any hopes up on that front.

Milner would be on a free so would be wages demands only to navigate. United may need a keeper but with a decent backup in Valdez, I can't see them going for an older keeper like Cech. 

On the contrary I would expect United to be all over him if he's allowed to leave, assuming De Gea is off. He's still around the peak age for a top level keeper. He could give them 5 or 6 great years like Van Der Sar did (who was 3 years older when they signed him).

Didn't realise Milner was free. Still think his wage demands would be too high for the place he would have in the squad.

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ajc28 wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

I like Milner and wouldn't mind him as a cheap utility player. Could take the place of Rosicky/Flamini and fill in a number of positions. I couldn't see regular games for him though and I imagine he would be a bit pricey for that sort of role.

Cech would be my dream signing. Still one of the top keepers in the world and should still be playing at a big club. But Mourinho wouldn't sell to Wenger and United are likely going to be in the market for a keeper this summer so I wouldn't get any hopes up on that front.

Milner would be on a free so would be wages demands only to navigate. United may need a keeper but with a decent backup in Valdez, I can't see them going for an older keeper like Cech. 

On the contrary I would expect United to be all over him if he's allowed to leave, assuming De Gea is off. He's still around the peak age for a top level keeper. He could give them 5 or 6 great years like Van Der Sar did (who was 3 years older when they signed him).

Didn't realise Milner was free. Still think his wage demands would be too high for the place he would have in the squad.

Would AFC fans be happy with a Walcott + cash swap for Sterling? Maybe Walcott + $10m?

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No, don't want to lose Walcott. Can't see Wenger being interested in Sterling really, he doesn't usually tend to be that keen on players who get into a lot of trouble and cause headlines off the pitch.

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ajc28 wrote:

No, don't want to lose Walcott. Can't see Wenger being interested in Sterling really, he doesn't usually tend to be that keen on players who get into a lot of trouble and cause headlines off the pitch.

So he never really wanted Suarez?

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Walcott + cash would be great. Sterlings got time on his side, where as Walcott's hitting his prime with an ACL rebuild under his belt and Michael Owen like dependency on his pace to be able to score. Yes Sterling's had off field guff, but he's no Balotelli/Suarez. He's more Wilshere level, which is managable.

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LeighboNZ wrote:

ajc28 wrote:

No, don't want to lose Walcott. Can't see Wenger being interested in Sterling really, he doesn't usually tend to be that keen on players who get into a lot of trouble and cause headlines off the pitch.

So he never really wanted Suarez?

I started typing about Suarez then couldn't be bothered, but I guess the trouble he causes tends to be on the pitch which maybe Wenger thought he could deal with or even change, though I'm delighted he didn't end up tainting my club. Suarez may be a nutcase on the pitch but you don't tend to hear stories about him assaulting his wife or inhaling laughing gas etc and that's more what I was getting at.

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Barca are managing Suarez pretty well.

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He only bites when he wants out

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I'm hearing if Liverpool want Charlie Austin it is going to cost them between 15 & 20 Million. which is a bargain compared to Andy Carroll.

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Fat Sam gone, BR should be next but knowing out luck we'd end up with Sam...

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Lonegunmen wrote:

I'm hearing if Liverpool want Charlie Austin it is going to cost them between 15 & 20 Million. which is a bargain compared to Andy Carroll.

Austin & Kane both have a lot to prove next season, that this wasn't a fluke.

I'd take Austin happily. 

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Steve McLaren and Nigel Clough both given the arse.

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2 days till it closes. Grab ya popcorn and a comfy seat.

Rob Green to Wet Spam? Charlie Austin to god knows where? Leroy Fer ditto. Phillips to WBA? Junior Toilett (Deliberate spelling error) to anyone - please.

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So interesting LFC news to help with the bump.

Palace have made a 31.5m bid for Benteke meaning if they sell, LFC bascially paid 500k to get Villa relegated. 

Edit: Cheers for the heads up Kwlap - missed the name initially. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

So interesting LFC news to help with the bump.

Palace have made a 31.5m bid meaning if they sell, LFC bascially paid 500k to get Villa relegated. 

sorry lehbo, what have palace bidded for?

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kwlap wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

So interesting LFC news to help with the bump.

Palace have made a 31.5m bid meaning if they sell, LFC bascially paid 500k to get Villa relegated. 

sorry lehbo, what have palace bidded for?

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kwlap wrote:

LeighboNZ wrote:

So interesting LFC news to help with the bump.

Palace have made a 31.5m bid meaning if they sell, LFC bascially paid 500k to get Villa relegated. 

sorry lehbo, what have palace bidded for?

Benteke

Fixed. I'm struggling...

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i think he'd do really well at Palace. Definitely more suited to a Pardew team than a Klopp team

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i think he'd do really well at Palace. Definitely more suited to a Pardew team than a Klopp team

As a mate said, with Bolaise and Townsend whipping balls in, he'd be a great fit there plus we get our money back. Everyone's a winner. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

i think he'd do really well at Palace. Definitely more suited to a Pardew team than a Klopp team

As a mate said, with Bolaise and Townsend whipping balls in, he'd be a great fit there plus we get our money back. Everyone's a winner. 

Except Villa...
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LeighboNZ wrote:

i think he'd do really well at Palace. Definitely more suited to a Pardew team than a Klopp team

As a mate said, with Bolaise and Townsend whipping balls in, he'd be a great fit there plus we get our money back. Everyone's a winner. 

Except Villa...

Haha - yup. Except Villa...

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And Connor Wickham

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Expect Bolaise to jump ship.

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foal30 wrote:

Expect Bolaise to jump ship.

I saw rumours yesterday that Everton are in for him and for Kapser from LCFC

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If the Pogba to United rumours are true, the prices are out of this world!

  • £103m for the transfer itself.
  • £11.4m per year in wages.

...and for a bloke who walked on from OT on a free.

Worst transfer related error ever?

I know LFC (Houllier) turned down Ronaldo, some Scottish manager ignored his sons advice to sign Lionel Messi when he was just a bright spark on Football Manager and a Hearts mate just told me that "...John Robertson Hearts all-time leading scorer and Hammer of the Hibs was knocked back by Hibs in the late 70's".

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LeighboNZ wrote:

If the Pogba to United rumours are true, the prices are out of this world!

  • £103m for the transfer itself.
  • £11.4m per year in wages.

...and for a bloke who walked on from OT on a free.

Worst transfer related error ever?

I know LFC (Houllier) turned down Ronaldo, some Scottish manager ignored his sons advice to sign Lionel Messi when he was just a bright spark on Football Manager and a Hearts mate just told me that "...John Robertson Hearts all-time leading scorer and Hammer of the Hibs was knocked back by Hibs in the late 70's".

Wenger's pretty muched almost signed everyone; here is his almost signed 11:

http://www.football365.com/news/a-full-arsene-weng...

Although I imagine when you're around that long, have a good youth network, you'd probably come across most of the up & coming super stars often.

Oh, and Pogba almost came to Arsenal instead of Juventus. 

However given the timing we probably would have sold him off within a couple of seasons while we were under our 'new stadium financial restraint'

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103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

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Haven't seen enough of Pogba to state one way or the other, either way - he'd make Man U much stronger.

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Can't see what all the fuss is about and certainly not worth anything like that kind of coin

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Can't see what all the fuss is about and certainly not worth anything like that kind of coin

He's got a great highlights reel and is probably really good on FIFA on the playbox and xstation so he'll sell a lot of shirts
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Everton want 50 million for Stones. He's bang average.

Meanwhile City are looking at Bonucci for 50mil+, Palace and West Ham are willing to throw 35mil+ at players, and Watford have rejected a combined 70mil for Ighalo and Deeney.

Money in football is beyond ridiculous now.

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103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

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I reckon the biggest transfer screw-up has to be when Chelski signed a certain Liverpool striker for 50 million and he flopped - Tores and closesly followed by the other flop - Carroll - Going from Newcastle to Liverpool for 35 million. 

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Bullion wrote:

103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

Oh yeah, the Sanches rumors are total BS, just proof of how good he is that people are saying it.

I thought he cost €35m straight up plus another €45m in potential additional fees. So that's up to €80m. Pogba's proposed £103m equals about €120m so yeah half as much was hyperbole. Two-thirds as much is more like it.

Expressed another way, Pogba is being valued at 200 Riyad Mahrezes

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Bullion wrote:

103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

Oh yeah, the Sanches rumors are total BS, just proof of how good he is that people are saying it.

I thought he cost €35m straight up plus another €45m in potential additional fees. So that's up to €80m. Pogba's proposed £103m equals about €120m so yeah half as much was hyperbole. Two-thirds as much is more like it.

Expressed another way, Pogba is being valued at 200 Riyad Mahrezes

I just wonder if Utd have worked out that if they spend £103m they will get £20m back from Juve as training compensation - I honestly have no idea how it works exactly.

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Bullion wrote:

Bullion wrote:

103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

Oh yeah, the Sanches rumors are total BS, just proof of how good he is that people are saying it.

I thought he cost €35m straight up plus another €45m in potential additional fees. So that's up to €80m. Pogba's proposed £103m equals about €120m so yeah half as much was hyperbole. Two-thirds as much is more like it.

Expressed another way, Pogba is being valued at 200 Riyad Mahrezes

I just wonder if Utd have worked out that if they spend £103m they will get £20m back from Juve as training compensation - I honestly have no idea how it works exactly.

I doubt they would as he walked out on a free. 

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LeighboNZ wrote:

Bullion wrote:

Bullion wrote:

103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

Oh yeah, the Sanches rumors are total BS, just proof of how good he is that people are saying it.

I thought he cost €35m straight up plus another €45m in potential additional fees. So that's up to €80m. Pogba's proposed £103m equals about €120m so yeah half as much was hyperbole. Two-thirds as much is more like it.

Expressed another way, Pogba is being valued at 200 Riyad Mahrezes

I just wonder if Utd have worked out that if they spend £103m they will get £20m back from Juve as training compensation - I honestly have no idea how it works exactly.

I doubt they would as he walked out on a free. 

Doesn't matter if he left on a free, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(associatio...

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Bullion wrote:
LeighboNZ wrote:
Bullion wrote:
Bullion wrote:

103m pounds for Pogba could be a massive error in itself, even without the fact that heleft Man U for free. He's not the finished product yet, and the world's full of players who were hyped heaps in their early 20s but failed to kick on. I personally think that he's a bit of a flat track bully and has a tendency to fade in and out of games. Even at the Euros I think Renato Sanches has looked like he's a better CM, and he's 5 years younger (although conspiracy theorists are saying Sanches is actually 23 too) and he cost half that much.

Those Sanches rumours are bollox, he has been at Benfica since he was 8/9. There are videos of him around that age and he looks as young as his peers, you would notice the difference between a 15/16 yr compared to a 10yr old. And yes, he has initially cost half as much, but the total transfer fee could go up another 45million euro if certain targets are achieved.

Oh yeah, the Sanches rumors are total BS, just proof of how good he is that people are saying it.

I thought he cost €35m straight up plus another €45m in potential additional fees. So that's up to €80m. Pogba's proposed £103m equals about €120m so yeah half as much was hyperbole. Two-thirds as much is more like it.

Expressed another way, Pogba is being valued at 200 Riyad Mahrezes

I just wonder if Utd have worked out that if they spend £103m they will get £20m back from Juve as training compensation - I honestly have no idea how it works exactly.

I doubt they would as he walked out on a free. 

Doesn't matter if he left on a free, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(associatio...

That's nuts - surely that will just plump his price from Juve. 

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I saw his price described as 2 Raheem Sterlings today. In those terms it seems more reasonable. But that really just shows how overpriced Sterling was 

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I saw his price described as 2 Raheem Sterlings today. In those terms it seems more reasonable. But that really just shows how overpriced Sterling was 

Saw a 'letter to the editor' today asking if Ronaldo or Bale were any better than Sterling at the same age. Interesting point...

Bale was seen as a flop when he initially moved to Spurs and Ronaldo was just a flash haircut with step overs when he first joined United. 

Raheem is 21 years old, has 157 top flight games under his belt - decent experience for someone that age. I hate the way he left us (partially his doing, partially Rodgers) but he's not peaked yet IF he works under the right coach. 

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