Capital 1

The worst part about this stupid decision to (so it seems) have an 11-team league this year is that it creates an awful precedent and opens the way for all sorts of spurious claims and counter-claims and lawsuits in future. Are we going to have protests about referee decisions, muddy grounds, too much wind, too little wind (not drying out the mud), teams unable to play at full strength because of injury or university exams, teams unhappy at having to play midweek games at 6pm etc etc. Where will it end? CF simply cannot justify its intervention in this case, or any similar case. By the way we had an 11-team league a few years back after some court ruled that some team (in the Hutt, maybe?) had some sort of case. I recall there was much mumbling along the lines of "never again". To quote Pete Seeger "When will they ever learn?"   

Classic Snowball Logic. Completely flawless. 

On one of your worst days of course.....

for those complaining about the byes, shirley there will be a team from Cap 1 having a bye, as well as team from Cap 2 each week.  Why don't they get together and have some kind of game of football/competitive pub crawl?

Cap 1 v Cap 2 competitive pub crawl starting midday every Saturday at lovelocks 

How do the players in the lower grade sides feel about that? They've paid their subs and are now going to get bumped a couple of times a year?

What happens to the loss of earnings at the bar for teams in Cap 2? Do the teams in Cap 1 that get an extra game kindly donate some towards them?

How about the cost of officials? 

Do the Cap 1 sides pay more for officials as they need them for 20 rounds and Cap 2 pay less for the 16 games they play?

The normal regrading rules will still apply so unless a club is rorting the system, you should not see movement of more than the allowed amount of players.

The plot thickens. Who says there is no underhand corruption or bribery in CF ! Why is it that one club should be protected to this extent ?

The board says "the fundamental concerns of fairness" as their reason for the league re-structure.

Tell me ...where is the fairness for all the other effected clubs across these grades.

My suggestion is for all clubs in Capital 1 and 2 to VOTE for or against the proposed league structure. Let the members decide as opposed to the boards non consultative approach.

Yay or Nay  ?

Guys just an observation, some of the posts on here seem to me to be getting close to being defamatory especially some of the accusations of corruption and impropriety that are being bandied about.

Nothing wrong with healthy debate based on facts but to me some of you are getting a little ridiculous over this and it could come back to bite you.

Gee does that mean a club who lost points during the season due to a protest NOT on club letterhead is not valid ? I wonder if that protest process should be reviewed. Could further put the cat amongst the pigeons.......

Wait for the CL - CL1 debate.

The following is factual and nothing but fact from the NZF ruling...........

Points from the Cap1 appeal:

1. NZF has the view that had CF followed their regulations then without doubt NW would have been demoted/relegated from capital 1 at the end of the 2013 season.

2. To the extent, it is plain that CF have not followed their own regulations.

3.To have simply directed the consideration of this matter on the basis of it's being a "special case", falls outside the regulations.

4. NZF view, as a consequence, NW should have been relegated from capital 1 and the end of the 2013 season.

5. We emphatically reject the sumbmission of CF that NZF Rule 34.5 is limited in such a way as to preclude NZF considering this matter.

6. The decision not to relegate NW at the end of the 2013 season as required was plainly wrong. It cannot be categorised, as CF suggest, as a "general policy and governance" decision.

7. To that extent, we uphold the appeal.

8. CF Rule 31 provides the basis for the clubs to challenge the lawfulness of any board resolution (including a provision for negotiation or mediation and, ultimately, arbitration).

9. Those remedies are still open to the clubs.

10. We therefore find that although the CF decision to disregard its own senior playinmg regulations 2013 was wrong, there is no basis for us to address the issue of the as-yet-promulgated 2014 regulations. That is an issue which need to be taken up by the clubs in accordance with CF rules.

Now to address the latest notification from the CF Board dated 29 January 2014 regarding the Capital 1 situation.

Rule 31 of the CF regulations can and will apply to any further action by clubs for the 2014 season allowing them to challenge the Boards resolution on this matter.

Guys we are in Cap one this season so give it up and get on with preparing yourself  and your players, wasting all this energy trying to re litigate the matter is counterproductive.

 Some of you need to concentrate on sorting your own internal club problems out instead of riding out on this crusade for an imagined injustice.

This whole saga is getting sad, the continued unsubstantiated accusations and finger pointing from a few posters (who should know better) against Cap Football and NW (with absolutely no proof presented) also makes me wonder about some peoples real agendas here. 

Agenda = Justice for penny pinching points during the season ( by questionable CF process some suggest ).

 Live by the sword sorta stuff....

More importantly common sense or using CF statement - "the fundamental concerns of fairness". Why should one club be accommodated at the expense of all others.

No, no, no, no! How does the club of protest succeed even in protest against protest. Sad of so state of game, that such disrepute of spirit of competition. Sad, sad, sad, so sad. I cry for my cousins of conscience. I weep for my brothers of arms. Football is not winner this day of shame. 

Oh such relief. I just talk to key administrator local of game and have good news: new league proposal. Because of unhappy situation teams of number in Cap 1 division, any club in relegation 2014 can protest and be let to stay in 2015 league. So faces of happy, next year we have 14 teams and keep increase to cut of 38 teams, when league be size of Premier in Inglaterra. Then players have lots of games to become so good. I have joy again. Rejoice my friends for justice and love. 

Also may have proposal of team that lose game can protest and get points, but also even team who lose of points on protest can protest of protest and get points again with bonus called "protest bonus points".  New table propose with champion decide by most wins of protest. Apparently no protest on the protest proposal, as no consultation proposed and decision in private. 

Yay, yay, happy hola.