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NHpeter wrote:
That is nice then.

What is the bet he will get a duck in the test coming up
It'll be on TV. He'll be mindful of potential IPL scouts watching. He will have a slog and get out.
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Buffon II wrote:
Anyone watch Swanny's diary?


Nup. Was it on the tele?

I want to see Collingwood get in the runs in this match. He's the only English player not have got really stuck in, by memory. A ton from KP would be a treat too, the Aussies (and most everyone else) hate him.
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Controversy at the SCG.

From Cricinfo:

Beer to Cook, 1 no ball, 88.9 kph, Beer has a wicket! Or does he? Cook has gone for a big slog sweep and skied it to mid-on, where Hilfenhaus hovers underneath it and takes the catch. But Beer's celebrations are short-lived - Billy Bowden asks for the third umpire to check on a suspected no-ball - and Beer has overstepped! Oh, a horrible moment for the debutant!

Haha Beer!TopLeft072011-01-04 19:02:08
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Footpaul wrote:

Buffon II wrote:
Anyone watch Swanny's diary?
Nup. Was it on the tele?


It's on youtube. It's brilliant.
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TopLeft07 wrote:
Controversy at the SCG.

From Cricinfo:

Beer to Cook, 1 no ball, 88.9 kph, Beer has a wicket! Or does he? Cook has gone for a big slog sweep and skied it to mid-on, where Hilfenhaus hovers underneath it and takes the catch. But Beer's celebrations are short-lived - Billy Bowden asks for the third umpire to check on a suspected no-ball - and Beer has overstepped! Oh, a horrible moment for the debutant!

Haha Beer!


I just loved the despairing Aussie faces. Brilliant.
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Buffon II wrote:
Anyone watch Swanny's diary?
Have now, cheers buff good laugh that. Did you send in a sprinkler vid? I want to see Bresnan celebrate a wicket with it.
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Pollard hit 29 off one over just now in the Aussie Twenty20 comp, it was crazy, he had like 3 free hits, completely wild.
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Yeah saw that then got out off an amazing catch. Then SA collapsed when they only needed about 40 off 30 to win. tomrewi2011-01-05 00:53:38
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Footpaul wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:
Controversy at the SCG.

From Cricinfo:

Beer to Cook, 1 no ball, 88.9 kph, Beer has a wicket! Or does he? Cook has gone for a big slog sweep and skied it to mid-on, where Hilfenhaus hovers underneath it and takes the catch. But Beer's celebrations are short-lived - Billy Bowden asks for the third umpire to check on a suspected no-ball - and Beer has overstepped! Oh, a horrible moment for the debutant!

Haha Beer!


I just loved the despairing Aussie faces. Brilliant.
I hate the fact umpires can do that though.
 
Why would they ever not check it? Umpires will slowly stop calling close no balls,and just check every time there is a wicket. No coincidence that it's happened twice,when it rarely happened previously.
 
Eventually this replay thing will turn out like League and pretty much every other sport that has adopted it.
 
Not a fan.
 
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Not really, don't know if you've umpired before but even just doing player umpiring, its almost always obviously not a no-ball, but sometimes you get a ball that a little late it clicks that 'oh sh*t, that was probably a no-ball'. It is to late to call it and you just hope that it doesn't get a wicket.If you can check when you have that nagging suspicion I think it is a good thing.

Obviously this should happen less to real umpires than joe schmo, but it can happen.

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I have umpired before.

If i had the option of checking a no ball after a wicket,I would do it most of the time if it was quite close (which it usually is). Also,if it was quite close,I would never call the no ball,just in case it was out. So you will see situations like yesterday happen more often than previously.
 
Very rarely would a wicket happen,then afterwards it would be seen to be a no ball. Yet now it has happened twice. And kind of ruined 2 moments. Do we really want to sacrifice that for the sake of getting every decision perfect?
 
All it'll take,is for one day an umpire not to go upstairs on one that turns out to be a no ball,people will cry,the umpires will lose confidence,and suddenly everything will be checked. Think about any other sport (probably rugby and league are the best examples) where this exact thing has happened. And you can already see the same snowball effect happening in cricket.
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That was lucky by cook. Could have been out on 99
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commentator just said: "It's clearly a much more difficult pitch when you bowl really well."

...good insight there, that explains why aussie were 189/8, it's harder to bat when the bowlers are better. :|
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Just on the no-ball thing. You can understand why Billy wasn't sure. Beer's foot was quite a bit off the ground so from behind it would be impossible to tell. In that case I think its a good thing to check, although it would be annoying if they started to go upstairs all the time.
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GenericFan wrote:
commentator just said: "It's clearly a much more difficult pitch when you bowl really well."

...good insight there, that explains why aussie were 189/8, it's harder to bat when the bowlers are better. :|
 
They're hilarious eh. When Beer came on to bowl they started crapping on about how Pieterson will try to go after him, and that will make it easier because it will give him an opportunity. Then a couple of overs later as he took another easy single, they changed tune and came up with some reason why Pieterson looking for singles would make it easier.
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To me, this seems to sum up the difference between the two bowling attacks -

"We always have this argument between batters and bowlers," Johnson said. "We always try to find a way to get behind the line. We all try and do it. Whether you feel enclosed with the nets being there, I don't know what it is. I still bowl half a foot over in the nets but I don't know how we're going to fix that...
...England's approach to over-stepping with David Saker, the bowling coach, is much more meticulous than Australia's sloppy method under Troy Cooley. "We think it's a very important part of our job to stay behind the line - even more so in one-day cricket," Anderson said."We try and practise it in the nets, and I hope we can replicate that out there."
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Tegal wrote:

I have umpired before.


If i had the option of checking a no ball after a wicket,I would do it most of the time if it was quite close (which it usually is). Also,if it was quite close,I would never call the no ball,just in case it was out. So you will see situations like yesterday happen more often than previously.

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Very rarely would a wicket happen,then afterwards it would be seen to be a no ball. Yet now it has happened twice. And kind of ruined 2 moments. Do we really want to sacrifice that for the sake of getting every decision perfect?

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All it'll take,is for one day an umpire not to go upstairs on one that turns out to be a no ball,people will cry,the umpires will lose confidence,and suddenly everything will be checked. Think about any other sport (probably rugby and league are the best examples) where this exact thing has happened. And you can already see the same snowball effect happening in cricket.


Fair enough. I hope you are wrong, but you may be right. I do understand your point about the creep that seems to occour over time where these things are introduced. I just think more often than not, the umpire will know.

The other option is to get a system that calls them automatically like foot faults in tennis- don't know how that works though, so not sure if it is feasible. This would let umpires solely concentrate on what is happening at the other end.
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Australia bowling attack 2007:



Australia bowling attack 2011:




Sums it up.
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aitkenmike wrote:


The other option is to get a system that calls them automatically like foot faults in tennis- don't know how that works though, so not sure if it is feasible. This would let umpires solely concentrate on what is happening at the other end.


Don't think this would work due to the foot being in the air a lot of the time (e.g. Beer no-ball if he had been back 5 cms). Would only work if all their bowlers had their feet on the ground.
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Collingwood anounced his retirement after his test.
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Hilarious hearing the Australian commentators having a massive whinge about the English ones.
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2ndBest wrote:
Collingwood anounced his retirement after his test.
 
I wonder if that's because he's sick of
 
      CHEATING AUSSIE CUNTS
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"Johnson - one of the world's great bowlers"

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TopLeft07 wrote:
2ndBest wrote:
Collingwood anounced his retirement after his test.
 
I wonder if that's because he's sick of
 
      CHEATING AUSSIE CUNTS
 
he'll still get them in ODI and T20
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aitkenmike wrote:
Tegal wrote:

I have umpired before.


If i had the option of checking a no ball after a wicket,I would do it most of the time if it was quite close (which it usually is). Also,if it was quite close,I would never call the no ball,just in case it was out. So you will see situations like yesterday happen more often than previously.

 

Very rarely would a wicket happen,then afterwards it would be seen to be a no ball. Yet now it has happened twice. And kind of ruined 2 moments. Do we really want to sacrifice that for the sake of getting every decision perfect?

 

All it'll take,is for one day an umpire not to go upstairs on one that turns out to be a no ball,people will cry,the umpires will lose confidence,and suddenly everything will be checked. Think about any other sport (probably rugby and league are the best examples) where this exact thing has happened. And you can already see the same snowball effect happening in cricket.


Fair enough. I hope you are wrong, but you may be right. I do understand your point about the creep that seems to occour over time where these things are introduced. I just think more often than not, the umpire will know.

The other option is to get a system that calls them automatically like foot faults in tennis- don't know how that works though, so not sure if it is feasible. This would let umpires solely concentrate on what is happening at the other end.
 
That would be interesting,but i think that beeps when it touches the line? which is all the time so probably wouldn't work. It'd have to be immediate for me to accept it - I guess I'm in the camp that it isn't worth holding the game up (and ruining moments) over. It's just a no ball,a matter of centimetres. If the umpire calls it a no ball,then its a no ball,if he doesn't it isn't...When did we stop accepting that and starting HAVING to get everything 100% right even at the detriment of the flow and emotion of a game.
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Bresnan ?

Fast becoming one of my favourite cricketers.
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I'm loving this ashes series, apart from the 3rd test. So good! Wish I was there.

Anyone going to the NZ v Pakistan test in Hamilton?

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3rd ton of the innings as prior looks on his way at 94 not out
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I heart Cricinfo.  They come up with some gems....
"Ben Hilfenhaus, who is as willing as he is unable, will share the new ball"
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Johnson getting 22 smashed off his over by the number 10 and 11 batsman.
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Loving this, Poms tearing the Aussies a new one.
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Oceanic6 wrote:
I'm loving this ashes series, apart from the 3rd test. So good! Wish I was there.

Anyone going to the NZ v Pakistan test in Hamilton?



Yep, i'll be there for some of it.
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Oceanic6 wrote:
Anyone going to the NZ v Pakistan test in Hamilton?

Might go to the Wellington one.
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TopLeft07 wrote:
Oceanic6 wrote:
Anyone going to the NZ v Pakistan test in Hamilton?

Might go to the Wellington one.


Will your boss give you the time off?
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Hilarious run out as well. Complete balls up
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