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I already miss him....

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a record breaking season in terms of goal scoring for the nix (and nearly winning golden boot. 

Followed by a bad season. 

'Fans' remember the bad season. 

Third all time leading goal scorer. Same number of goals as club legend Shane Smeltz. 

'Fans' say he can't score goals. 

Makes me embarrassed to be a nix fan reading a lot of the crap being said (on here and mostly on facebook) today. And whenever he has been mentioned in the past. 

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I'm happy about this, not because Brockie is leaving the Nix, BUT...

Because it is a next step and opportunity for him, hopefully to move from our club where he is now 2nd choice, to another club where he might get a chance to get more gametime and a different experience of football. 

Am gutted to see the attitude of a lot of the people about this. Brockie had ups and downs, but was an excellent rep  for the club and should be remembered as such.

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Seriously Tegal.  Why would you read the club Facebook comments? 

It's not Stuff comments but it's not far behind.

Marquee
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Really have to wonder why some of you even bother supporting the Phoenix,the bitching and moaning that goes on about the team and the players at times is way over the top.Any wonder so many people have left the forums due to that rubbish and the attacks made against people who dare to disagree with someones opinion.All blood and guts behind the keyboard but fluffy pussycats when it comes to being in person.

Dont go with the usual but thats just the internet or you should  read so and so  forum.God forbid we dared to be different.

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I think people take one or two people disagreeing with them as the whole forum attacking them too often tbh. 

I have rarely seen anything that constitutes 'attacking' and if there has been, the mods are usually fairly good at knocking it on the head. 

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Tegal wrote:

a record breaking season in terms of goal scoring for the nix (and nearly winning golden boot. 

Followed by a bad season. 

'Fans' remember the bad season. 

Third all time leading goal scorer. Same number of goals as club legend Shane Smeltz. 

'Fans' say he can't score goals. 

Makes me embarrassed to be a nix fan reading a lot of the crap being said (on here and mostly on facebook) today. And whenever he has been mentioned in the past. 

Bollocks. Players leave all the time and no one cares/they say good riddance. What is special about Brockie? he's a nice guy? When Cunningham leaves, will anyone care?

Listen here Fudgeface
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Hard News wrote:

Seriously Tegal.  Why would you read the club Facebook comments? 

It's not Stuff comments but it's not far behind.

it's almost worth a "Phoenix Commentors" Facebook page, a la Veitchy on Sport Commentors "
Marquee
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what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

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I think about 80% of the team is pretty good, including A-Rod who gets bagged quite a lot. I think the rest aren't particularly good OOOH I'M A BAD FAN *sign of the cross*

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Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

Sorry, I will try to remember not to openly disagree with the opinions of others in future...

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Majority rules haha

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Cosimo wrote:

Bollocks. Players leave all the time and no one cares/they say good riddance. What is special about Brockie? he's a nice guy? When Cunningham leaves, will anyone care?

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[quote=Cosimo]

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what?

Are you serious here? First you are telling us we shouldn't care, and then saying you are embarrassed when people are told how to feel?

Well guess you're just an embarrassment then.

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Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

You can feel how you like. I just don't see how anyone could have anything bad to say about Brockie. The fact that he was still selected after being in poor form isn't his fault. If you don't like situation then blame the club for signing him and paying him so much or blame Merrick. Brockie just tried to do the best with what he had.

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Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

Aren't you telling me how I should feel about people who don't like Brockie? 

You embarrass yourself ;) 

People are allowed to disagree, the forum would be quiet boring if they didn't. 

Marquee
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I think he should grow back his hair and shave. You never know.....

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Hard News wrote:

Seriously Tegal.  Why would you read the club Facebook comments? 

It's not Stuff comments but it's not far behind.

Boredom mostly. Any odd fever jobs need doing?

Marquee
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Cosimo wrote:

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Bollocks. Players leave all the time and no one cares/they say good riddance. What is special about Brockie? he's a nice guy? When Cunningham leaves, will anyone care?

With a local player who is not taking up a visa spot, I would prefer to see him overcome the problems. And there is a certain amount of loyalty involved on our part to a "local" player that might also prefer to play here rather than abroad.  Clearly Brockie is past that stage by now, and a decision had been reached. He still needs to make a living, and I wish him all the success he can get.

With a visa spot player departing, another useful player could be considered to fill the gap and the visa spot. Possibly less loyalty involved.

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Tegal wrote:

Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

Sorry, I will try to remember not to openly disagree with the opinions of others in future...

um, read my post - disagreeing is fine, that's my point.  "I think Brockie was pretty good, actaully" does not equal "Makes me embarrassed to be a nix fan reading a lot of the crap being said"

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Mainland FC wrote:

Cosimo wrote:

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Bollocks. Players leave all the time and no one cares/they say good riddance. What is special about Brockie? he's a nice guy? When Cunningham leaves, will anyone care?

With a local player who is not taking up a visa spot, I would prefer to see him overcome the problems. And there is a certain amount of loyalty involved on our part to a "local" player that might also prefer to play here rather than abroad.  Clearly Brockie is past that stage by now, and a decision had been reached. He still needs to make a living, and I wish him all the success he can get.

With a visa spot player departing, another useful player could be considered to fill the gap and the visa spot. Possibly less loyalty involved.

Cool, but if he wasn't having any, there wouldn't be an issue. That's my point. I don't hate him, I don't know him. I just want us to be a good team. I don't care whether he's local or not. I wish him well too, but I'm glad he's leaving, just like you'd be glad I was leaving if I were playing for the Nix cos I'd be rubbish.

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I'd be glad if we were replacing him with somebody better, but we aren't. Though probably a bonus if we get a transfer fee for him. 

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Wouldnt his wage still be counted against the cap? 

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Cosimo wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

Sorry, I will try to remember not to openly disagree with the opinions of others in future...

um, read my post - disagreeing is fine, that's my point.  "I think Brockie was pretty good, actaully" does not equal "Makes me embarrassed to be a nix fan reading a lot of the crap being said"

So now you're telling me I'm not allowed to feel embarrassed? 

All of these rules are confusing. 

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Tegal wrote:

Cosimo wrote:

Tegal wrote:

Cosimo wrote:

what makes me embarrassed is people being told how they should feel about certain players. Get off your high horses. If you think he's a good player, great; if people don't, so what? 

Sorry, I will try to remember not to openly disagree with the opinions of others in future...

um, read my post - disagreeing is fine, that's my point.  "I think Brockie was pretty good, actaully" does not equal "Makes me embarrassed to be a nix fan reading a lot of the crap being said"

So now you're telling me I'm not allowed to feel embarrassed? 

All of these rules are confusing. 

You can feel embarrassed.

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It was the same with Brown and Lochhead. Neither had done much in their last seasons. Time to move on and it's "Oh how could certain forummers be so awful about a great, beloved heroes?" "Nobody particularly defended them when they were playing crap but as soon as they leave it's like the rose-tinted goggles come out.

I'm with you Cos - once a player is not good enough they need to be moved on and we need to drop the revisionist crap when suddenly everybody thought they were great all the time after all.

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I get that. If he was no good this season, and his contract ran out with an off season to find somebody better - then I'd be fine with it (as long as we DID find somebody better). 

I was hoping he'd come back to form this season. As it stands, its 7 games in and we are unlikely to find a better replacement, so it is a loss. 

I fondly remember his record breaking season here, even if his second season was poor. 

What I was referring to are all the "good riddance" "he was crap, thank god" comments from people who supposedly support the team. 

I have no problem with players moving on, but I'd like to think we could react with a bit of class for our third highest goalscorer and a player who just over a season ago got the record for most goals in a single nix season. 

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ForteanTimes wrote:

It was the same with Brown and Lochhead. Neither had done much in their last seasons. Time to move on and it's "Oh how could certain forummers be so awful about a great, beloved heroes?" "Nobody particularly defended them when they were playing crap but as soon as they leave it's like the rose-tinted goggles come out.

I'm with you Cos - once a player is not good enough they need to be moved on and we need to drop the revisionist crap when suddenly everybody thought they were great all the time after all.

This

I am pleased that Brockie is going. I have nothing against him personally but the reality of pro sport is "if you are not good enough you get the chop" You can't accuse Ernie of not giving Brock's a fair go.....because he persisted with him and worked on his game for a huge amount of time. Brockie had his future in his own hands but was not good enough to take his chance in the new setup. The reality was that his weakness's....lack of pace and movement and tendency to drift out of games played a big part in his going.

I will remember him for his wonder strikes.....he was probably one of the cleanest strikers of the ball in the A-League. He scored some goals that got you off your seat. However I have no sentiment about his departure.....the world moves on. I hope he makes a good go of it in SA.

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Tegal wrote:

I get that. If he was no good this season, and his contract ran out with an off season to find somebody better - then I'd be fine with it (as long as we DID find somebody better). 

I was hoping he'd come back to form this season. As it stands, its 7 games in and we are unlikely to find a better replacement, so it is a loss. 

I fondly remember his record breaking season here, even if his second season was poor. 

What I was referring to are all the "good riddance" "he was crap, thank god" comments from people who supposedly support the team. 

I have no problem with players moving on, but I'd like to think we could react with a bit of class for our third highest goalscorer and a player who just over a season ago got the record for most goals in a single nix season. 

He was crap - this season. I've been crap at my job lately, too.

When Brockie was on form in past seasons, he was really good. That version ruled.

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He hasn't been given the chop, the club have accepted an offer for him.  Very different things.

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The last 3 posts from Austin, Tegal and Fortean echo a lot of common sense. 

I think its ok to have the emotional attachment to him because he is a Kiwi and will still represent part of us but in an AW shirt. Its also good to remember he did have a good season here and acknowledge that. He didn't turn up and play at 50% and disrespect the fans - he just had a run of poor form, not effort. I think in respect of that, you acknowledge his service in a classy manner and let him move on. 

Such is the nature of pro sports, he will also be allowed to be shown the door and forgotten by some folk too because he was given a fair shift by Ernie and its fair to say it has just not worked so then you move on. He was not an Ifill whom was class every time he put the boots on - he was a footballer that had 1 cracking season and 1 poor season. As Austin said, some of his goals made you go 'holy shizen' and some times your ripped your hair out but thats football for you.

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Hard News wrote:

He hasn't been given the chop, the club have accepted an offer for him.  Very different things.

This is true but again, whom initiated it. We just do not know. It could have been Brockie asking to leave (via shopping himself about via an agent), it could have been the club telling him he does not figure in the future or it could be as 2ndBest said, contract offer did not match expectations.

If he was performing, this situation would probably not be happening unless it was a crazy offer from a team far above where we are (i.e. English Championship or similar) While it may not be the chop, if the club were fussed, they would keep him I would suspect.

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I think the measure of a former player should be the type of reaction they'd get if they wandered in to the fever zone.

If Paul Ifill walked in people would lose it.

If Hernandez walked in there would be raised eyebrows and lots of 'what the russian fudge?' looks exchanged.

If Toto walked in nobody would even recognise him.

If Brockie walked in he'd get a warm reception, a slap on the back, and a 'cheers' if he had a beer. That is nothing to be scoffed at and I for one wish him all the best.

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Marquee
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ForteanTimes wrote:

It was the same with Brown and Lochhead. Neither had done much in their last seasons. Time to move on and it's "Oh how could certain forummers be so awful about a great, beloved heroes?" "Nobody particularly defended them when they were playing crap but as soon as they leave it's like the rose-tinted goggles come out.

I'm with you Cos - once a player is not good enough they need to be moved on and we need to drop the revisionist crap when suddenly everybody thought they were great all the time after all.

Yeah, remember the season after Brown left? How well did that go again? Oh right, wooden spoon. Turns out he was a severely underated player and heavily missed by us.

We all went into that season expecting to do well, get rid of some baggage - finally Sanchez could play in the correct position, hired a big bald Belgian.

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LG
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I wixh him well. Good sort to talk to. My only advice for him is....learn to use a gun, don't stop at traffic lights, dont have your car window wound down and if you hit someone dont stop and get out to see if they are ok, it could be a set up.if it wasn't for all the violence and corruption, SA would be a great place.

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Lonegunmen wrote:

I wixh him well. Good sort to talk to. My only advice for him is....learn to use a gun, don't stop at traffic lights, dont have your car window wound down and if you hit someone dont stop and get out to see if they are ok, it could be a set up.if it wasn't for all the violence and corruption, SA would be a great place. I work with a lot of them and the stories all have similar themes. Oh and most of them are as the term goes, "coloureds" that i work with. So dont waste your time or threads on accusing me of being racist. It is an attitude problem there, not a skin problem.

Just not inside and don't aim at the toilet door.

Tegal Fan Club Member #3
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44 games, 6 goals, in two seasons, including his time at Toronto. A man out of form. Time to go. 

Opinion Privileges revoked
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ForteanTimes wrote:

It was the same with Brown and Lochhead. Neither had done much in their last seasons. Time to move on and it's "Oh how could certain forummers be so awful about a great, beloved heroes?" "Nobody particularly defended them when they were playing crap

Take that back. I was never much into Lochhead but I defended Tim Brown against the "invisible man" jokes. He was for me like a midfield equivalent of Smeltzy, you never see them UNTIL they do something great. And we missed him like bejeezus in 2012/13.

As for Brockie, I'll miss him because I'm not 100% convinced that Krishna's ready for the big time yet; and also because it would have been better for him to go out against Newcastle.

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Still a chance he does a smeltz, and doesnt sign the contract/ like SA after the medical

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