let's take the club bias out of this conversation for a bit - every year a NRFL premier league club goes deep into the chatham cup as you would expect due to the regional stacking of the draw - so it's a bit tough to blame the entire NRFL delay on one club - last year the same accusations were thrown at Suburbs.
The answer might be really obvious, let's open the question up to the people on this forum who support teams in the Central and Mainland leagues and find out how this kind of issue is handled before we decide throw the problem all the way of Birko or AFF.
Interesting side note - at the NRFL ops meeting the competition staff indicated that in 2017 they would have more power to schedule games without clubs approval (not sure if this is a good or bad thing) if it was in the best interests of the competition.
Northern Leagues
If a club is refusing to play Midweek because of a Cup run then who else is to blame?
Suburbs as you say did it last year making teams wait a month to play after there penultimate game.
Lack of leadership from AFF doesnt help but clubs selfish attitude is the reason why season has taken so long.
Waitakere City made Manurewa wait a month then played them midweek, Why? Chatham Cup!! And they were in a 20 game league, 4 less than Premier.
Cant remember previous seasons going on so long??
The Central league made teams play midweek at Wairarapa Utd then postponed some games so league finished on the same day. Its not hard to organise!!
let's take the club bias out of this conversation for a bit - every year a NRFL premier league club goes deep into the chatham cup as you would expect due to the regional stacking of the draw - so it's a bit tough to blame the entire NRFL delay on one club - last year the same accusations were thrown at Suburbs.
The answer might be really obvious, let's open the question up to the people on this forum who support teams in the Central and Mainland leagues and find out how this kind of issue is handled before we decide throw the problem all the way of Birko or AFF.
Interesting side note - at the NRFL ops meeting the competition staff indicated that in 2017 they would have more power to schedule games without clubs approval (not sure if this is a good or bad thing) if it was in the best interests of the competition.
For starters I think a 12-team league that doesn't break for the cup is too big. 10 (18 weeks) is perfect. Forcing teams to play midweek is a must, though the point about teams losing home bar takings is a good one - is there a way of doing compensation? Springs more at fault than Birko here for mine, given they had a three-week break at the end of August before finishing with 3 games in 8 days! And don't mention the under-20s, if they want to go and build around kids in a men's league, that's the poison they have to swallow.
Birkenhead v Springs was postponed on June 25 - hard to believe a Wednesday night couldn't have been found before now, concerns about bar takings aside.
Mainland has everyone off on cup weekends until the quarterfinals, not sure about Capital - but I bet them having a 10-team league helps.
I don't mind a 10 Team league but then 2 relegation spots from 10 is too many and then 1 spot leaves it really hard to get into Prem's. So maybe 12 is the best number.
Remember this season was 13!
I'm saying its hard to blame the clubs, because as it stands the clubs can decline AFF scheduled catch up games and will do so if it's in their best interests.
So with the capital football example there must be weekends where those teams in the central league who were knocked out early have byes as catchup games are played. This is what AFF are proposing for the 2017 season but all I see happening is the final day of the season being later and some clubs still sitting out for three weeks.
Also with only 1 out of Auckland Team in the league for 2017 compared to three in 2016 it will be a lot easier.
let's take the club bias out of this conversation for a bit - every year a NRFL premier league club goes deep into the chatham cup as you would expect due to the regional stacking of the draw - so it's a bit tough to blame the entire NRFL delay on one club - last year the same accusations were thrown at Suburbs.
The answer might be really obvious, let's open the question up to the people on this forum who support teams in the Central and Mainland leagues and find out how this kind of issue is handled before we decide throw the problem all the way of Birko or AFF.
Interesting side note - at the NRFL ops meeting the competition staff indicated that in 2017 they would have more power to schedule games without clubs approval (not sure if this is a good or bad thing) if it was in the best interests of the competition.
For starters I think a 12-team league that doesn't break for the cup is too big. 10 (18 weeks) is perfect. Forcing teams to play midweek is a must, though the point about teams losing home bar takings is a good one - is there a way of doing compensation? Springs more at fault than Birko here for mine, given they had a three-week break at the end of August before finishing with 3 games in 8 days! And don't mention the under-20s, if they want to go and build around kids in a men's league, that's the poison they have to swallow.
Birkenhead v Springs was postponed on June 25 - hard to believe a Wednesday night couldn't have been found before now, concerns about bar takings aside.
Mainland has everyone off on cup weekends until the quarterfinals, not sure about Capital - but I bet them having a 10-team league helps.
Yes as inafoxhole says in Mainland PL for the earlier rounds of the Chatham Cup no league games scheduled but not as many enter the cup down here compared to the Auckland region so our teams normally start in the round with 132 teams with Cashmere Technical playing seven games when the made the final both 2013 and 2014 - the same numbers as Birkenhead this season and Eastern Suburbs in 2015.
This season the MPL was 21 rounds (8 teams 3 rounds with the bottom team relegated) started on 19 March and ended on 27 August with only one doubled header over ANZAC weekend. Note the final round games must be all played on the same date and if possible kick-off at the same time to avoid any claims of a 'fixed' result, has been like this for a while down here.
Christchurch sides also involved in the local English Cup (with these games played under lights midweek in the latter part of the season) at English Park with the final normally played in early September with the winner of the MPL also playing the winner of the Football South PL winner in the South Island Football Championship again in early September.
David Mulligan been appointed head coach of East Coast Bays
Indeed, not really sure what to think about it
There are a lot of good old buggers at ECB and I suspect they may not work with Mullligan for no other reason that he is new and young and it's change.
Why do you think that will be the end of Joe?
moving to Auckland next year, wondering if anyone had any suggestions on west Auckland based clubs. Any club contacts etc? Was looking at Lynn Avon at this stage....
what level are you used to playing?
have played central league a few years ago in Wellington. Looking to play prem grade or slightly below , so open to options.
ok well here is the low down on clubs in the area:
Bay Olympic - home ground in the back of New Lynn - Premier League (have an artificial turf training ground)
Waitakere City - home ground out in Kumeu - Promoted to Premier League this season
Waitemata - home ground in Te Atatu South - Promoted to NRFL Div 1 this season
Oratia Utd - home ground in Oratia - NRFL Div 1 (also have an artificial training ground)
Te Atatu - home ground in Te Atatu Peninsular - NRFL Div 2
Lynn Avon, Glen Eden, Ranui Swanson, and Norwest are all Western clubs in the AFF/NFF Conference which is the level below NRFL.
Hope that helps.
hugely appreciated!
Waitak or Waitemata are good bets. Would avoid Lynn Avon like the plague.
what's terrible about Lynn Avon out of interest? It's just my closest club to where I'll be staying that's all
Just a club that's going nowhere with a shark set up.
Waitak will be good because they're the biggest club in the west and if you play well you can network your way in to a national league trial.
Waitemata have a good coach and good set up and are well on the up.
Bay Olympic aren't a bad shout either, depends if you like doing cleaning as a job though.
The rest are just a waste of time.
Just a club that's going nowhere with a shark set up.
Waitak will be good because they're the biggest club in the west and if you play well you can network your way in to a national league trial.
Waitemata have a good coach and good set up and are well on the up.
Bay Olympic aren't a bad shout either, depends if you like doing cleaning as a job though.
The rest are just a waste of time.
some out of date info there buffy - particularly re Bay - they have had some rough times but they are on the way back up.
Also don't know who the new coach at Waitemata is - they did have an excellent coach last year but he has moved on.
A short summery of Lynn Avon is as follows:
2009 Splashed the cash and won the Northern Premier League.
2010 stopped spending on players.
By 2015 had been relegated three times into “non league football”
This next part is where it gets hilarious.
In the football conference (1st automatically promoted and 2nd playsoff with Waibop champ) they paid there strike force $850 per week including $550 per week to sunni Issa.
They finished second in the league and Issa scored around 2000 goals.Stopped paying Issa before the playoffs,he transferred out and they got played of the park in the playoffs and are in the conference again next year.
Auckland and Waikato peeps! And anyone within a drive who wants to!
Any suggestions for charities or clubs to donate some memberships too, where the people would be likely to go up for the game?
Also Matt is arranging for some one off Welly tickets to be donated to good causes too.
If you're a bit better off than most drop a couple of $$ in here: https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/phoenixnorthernmem...
Cheers!
Any player movements?
Draw is out now on AFF website - www.aff.org.nz
Predictions?
We ( ECB ) easily beat Suburbs 3-0 but I am thinking that Suburbs were missing a couple of players?
We were missing out main goal keeper and striker
Predictions?
We ( ECB ) easily beat Suburbs 3-0 but I am thinking that Suburbs were missing a couple of players?
We were missing out main goal keeper and striker
Watched the game . Suburbs need more than a few players to look anything like a competitive side . If Tim Payne returns to them it will help as the midfield they put out would struggle to make a top school first 11. Some of their team looked very poor in comparison to ECB players .
Watched Birko vs Central today. 6-2 to Birko, Central were terrible.
Didn't think to much of Birko either, seem to be missing quite a few players from last year and are playing a few young kids. They had this Asian fellow on the wing from what I saw today he was class.
saw 2nd half of three kings v Glenfield. Was rubbish game, three kings largely lumped ball forward aimlessly, Glenfield were slightly more creative. 1-1 final score.
saw 2nd half of three kings v Glenfield. Was rubbish game, three kings largely lumped ball forward aimlessly, Glenfield were slightly more creative. 1-1 final score.
The pitch was terrible Saturday. Never going to inspire anything other than hoof ball.
well the "hoof ball" didn't appear to be working for either side, a 10 yard pass into the unmarked central midfielder wouldn't have been a miss could have started something. Or the keeping throw/rolling the ball out to the right wingback who had acres of spare, surely his touch isn't that bad... but contradicting myself Three Kings goal was "hoof ball" from keeper and center back miss judged header for Pearce to run onto.
Keith Hay Park
Waitak vs Forest Hill.
Red card before the game.
Red card to Butler for descent.
Ref later called off the game after a verbal tirade from supporters.
For what it's worth I thought the ref was doing an acceptable job.
I only over heardthe premature red card. In short I don't know, if you find out please let me know!
I believe it was Waitak supporters, but please don't quote me on that. Consisted of yelling a fair amount of dribble at the ref who I think k was actually playing advantage. Then ref stopped game went right over to talk to him and he must've said something to his face that I did not hear.
Score was 1-1 probably 75th minute though I wasn't looking to be honest.
It was weird because as I say, the ref was frustrating but he wasn't bad. (I'm a big believer in if you want a better ref become a better footballer) The game wasn't particularly violent or anything.
It was frustrating to have the crowd boo the ref after the game got called off though. Instead of booing the idiot supporter.
Waitakere City Facebook makes it sound like the game went 90 and ended 1-1? Or was it 1-1 and 2/3 through when abandoned?
A day of firsts if anything. As I say though, the game wasn't super heated or anything Butler's red card and the supporter tirade felt like it came out of no where - especially when compared to some other club's antics.
It definitely got abandoned early - it seems odd if the result stands. Waitak were down to ten min and Forest looked threatening. If it was indeed Waitak supporters who got the game called off then from their perspective I would consider that quite an achievement in helping their side secure a point!
Hopefully we see some repercussions for the idiots who I note had a kid with them.
Edit: the screenshot above highlights how fudgeing poor the attitude from some supporters is. Makes me mad.
From the regulations, looks like it'll be down to the competition manager after they have received the reports on the game. Result could stand, or if either team are found to be at fault it could be awarded as a 3-0 result to the opp
