CF Governance

Player re-grading

6.2 A player will be automatically graded to the team he/she plays his/her first game of a new

season for, or if he/she returns from injury after taking the field.

6.3 Named substitutes who do not take the field, are not graded to the higher team . The intent of this regulation

is to allow players to be names as a higher grade substitute, but still play lower in the grades without being 

considered a re-grade.

6.4 Unless otherwise specified‘ re-grades’ or ‘ re--grading’ only applies to the movement of players down

leagues/teams.

6.5 A men’s league player can be re-graded a maximum of two leagues below the team the player is re--graded

from. For the purpose of this clause a‘ league’ is the league where the club’s next team play .

6.6 Up to four men’s league players in total can be re--graded down from any one team per match

: up to three players can be re-graded one league down from where their usual team plays

 one player can be re-graded two leagues down from where their usual team plays

 any one team can only receive three re-graded players per game.

6.7 A total of three women’s league players per match can be re-graded a maximum of one league below 

the team the player is re-graded from. For the purpose of this clause a ‘league’ is the league where the club’s

next team plays.

6.8 A player is not classed as a re-grade when returning to the team they played in for the previous match.

However:

 if the player re-grades to another team, in a lower league than their original team, for a second consecutive 

match they are still deemed to be a re-graded player

 the player will be classified as a player of the higher graded team.

6.9 Once a player has played two consecutive matches for a club’s lower graded team they are deemed to be

a player of that team.

6.10 Any player who reaches 75% of league matches for any one team cannot re-grade down again to a team in 

a lower division for the remainder of that season.

This includes players

who have played 14 Central League matches entering into a tier 1 team.

The intent of this regulation is to prevent higher graded players unfairly assisting lower league teams at the end of 

the season when promotion/relegations are being decided

Some good thoughts in there Blew. I like the notion that being on the team card doesn't count you have to take the field.

This is the trick one - 

A player will be automatically graded to the team he/she plays his/her first game of a new

season for, or if he/she returns from injury after taking the field. 

Alteration to this will have to cover players in from National League, A-league, Central League - returning from rest or injury or Pro stand down. 

Oh right I thought that was your re-write. I do *not* read the regs ever. 

Seems rule/rules are fine. As no comment on current rule.

only poor losers complain about these type of rules as any club that is true to there members and players will always push the rules to give them a edge.

breaking the rules is a different story but using them is o.k in my books.

unless they have been made specially to benefit only one club….. then thats bad and wrong.

The current rule sux. How's that for a comment?

"NZ Football is currently undergoing a change in technology systems from Goalnet, to COMET, as part of the National Digital Framework Implementation. The change in systems affects all parts of the administration of football, including how members register to play, coach or referee.

You have by now hopefully received an email from NZ Football with details on how to access their individual MyComet login. MyComet is your online footballing profile where you can edit personal details & register to all football ‘products’ across the country."

So, as stakeholders/members/customers of Capital Football, are there any documents or records about what THEY are able to provide us? Or at least what they aim to do for us and importantly how they aim to achieve these results.

Every year I become more and more disillusioned with the sport, largely due to the frustrations I have as a volunteer dealing with our PAID regional football body. I dedicate hours of my own time because this sport used to be my passion... I'm not sure what to call it at this point in time. But the love is quickly being sucked out of me largely due to the overall management of our sport in the region.

Will the culture and attitudes at Capital Football ever change? Or will there always be "us", "them" and the "teachers pets"?

As many have over the years attend this and see how the system fails

Agenda - have not witness much change put forward by stakeholder alter the govenance

It will be interesting at this stage of the season as some of the bigger club's will inevitably drop players down to help their lower teams.

Is it true the rule is now 12 games and not 14?

Regulations are here http://www.sporty.co.nz/asset/downloadasset?id=bf7...

You want to read 6.5 and 6.8

6.5 Up to three players in total can be re-graded down from any one team per match: i. up to three players can be re-graded one league down from where their usual team plays ii. any one team can only receive three re-graded players per game.

6.8 Any player who reaches 66% of league matches for any one team cannot re-grade down again to a team in a lower division for the remainder of that season. This includes players who have played 66% of Central League matches entering into a tier 1 team.

So 12 (or 11.88) by the looks. Pretty sure it was 14 last year

Continue discussion on the regrading rule

I was more referring it to limiting it to 3 "first team players" per week and not allowing progressively more than that 3 one week, 6 the next etc. Have a lower threshold for what makes a "first team" player but allow up to 3 of them to be dropped down.

And going back to the Cup thing - we will make sure that no player plays both Kelly Cup and Executive Plate, players that played Kate Sheppard Cup can still play Executive Plate though.

I am the Uni rep on the MAG - so feel free for your club to contact me. 

Personally I am not buying into your argument for your Div1 team - but hey

We know the reason behind the rule (12 game rule etc) was to stop teams dropping their 'cream of the crop', which to a degree it does help with.

Then teams like Miramar found a hole - but I think they have (or are looking) to close that one too. Did they add something about National League players this year?

And Nelfoos I am sorry, but Vic Uni do have a pretty poor history of flouting or completely ignoring the rules re dropping players. I believe you need some form of casual registration to help you during the holidays. Just an idea.

National League players are now automatically graded to the top team. Only other way is  to say they can only play first team - which is rather harsh to tell someone where they have to play their footy.

Interesting question - why hasn't nz adopted player IDs? Cost?

I believe all AU players including kids have to have them?

Wasn't the NL player rule bought in cause Mar found a hole for Tom Jackson amongst other NL players just coming in and playing foe their reserves to pump high flying KCU and Vic Uni to help them gain promo?

I think you are confusing the confusion with this year when a Miramar player played against his own club haha

hassle for not much reason?

Heard about this in an Island Bay vs Miramar game earlier in the season.

Tom Jackson, Eric Molloy, Andy Bevin, Billy Scott and a couple of others, was a good pre season run out for Team Welly really, they beat KCU 6-1 - all the NL players were able to play as they were ungraded as they hadn't been playing in the winter league

We're making sure we're within the rules now but for a club like Uni with a relatively revolving door of coaches and players different people will take different approaches. We've decided to operate 100% within the rules and have planned for it, other coaches have not had that same attitude in the past. Given the Miramar situation last year, as a club we can't be seen to be complaining about the rules on one hand and breaking the exact same rules on the other.

no hole? so why did Cap football change the rule this season then?

yeah just noting on Blews attempt to deflect it- that there was a classic this year where a Mar CL player played for an IB social team vs Miramar

There were unsubstantiated reports that a released Phoenix player played for an IB social team as well.

CF take over TW Yoof. Coach is Nat Lawrence.

So are Eastern Suburbs going to fly the Ole youth players all around the country each week or will they be playing for TeeDubs under someone who isn't Ole?

I heard this. Was told there was photographic evidence too. Former IBU junior

Yep massive hole, hence why it's now closed.

So now we have come complete circle - back to where it was originally.  In my opinion, it should never have been taken away from the Federations.

depends what their stakeholders think I guess

Does this decision effectively make the team an FTC side in which none of the Wellington academies will be part of ?

Surely that can't be good.