Legit question. Is it against the rules to yell "dummy" or "mine"? I think I remember being told at my $5 referee course that it isn't but some old bastard today seemed to think it was. Ta
no wonder people don't want to ref when referred to as "old bastard" some people just have no self awareness
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Just a reminder that homophobic comments are not tolerated anywhere on these forums. I've had to hide a post containing some.
C'mon that was some of my best work! And it was completely tongue in cheek (no pun intended) due to the post beforehand.
Yeah but it crossed a line Vim. You have been added to the naughtly list.
Interested to hear what the referee's ruling would/should be in the following situation.
There is a 1v1 situation between an attacking player and the keeper for a 50-50 in the box. Keeper comes out to make a save, striker gets a toe to the ball putting it past the keeper. Players collide, ball goes goes into the goal.
Let's hear your thoughts.
Goal...?
(Not a referee, but that seems common sense to me).
Interested to hear what the referee's ruling would/should be in the following situation.
There is a 1v1 situation between an attacking player and the keeper for a 50-50 in the box. Keeper comes out to make a save, striker gets a toe to the ball putting it past the keeper. Players collide, ball goes goes into the goal.
Let's hear your thoughts.
Interested to hear what the referee's ruling would/should be in the following situation.
There is a 1v1 situation between an attacking player and the keeper for a 50-50 in the box. Keeper comes out to make a save, striker gets a toe to the ball putting it past the keeper. Players collide, ball goes goes into the goal.
Let's hear your thoughts.
Foul probably would've been on goalkeeper in this instance, advantage played = goal. But yeah, could also have been a card for the keeper too depending on the challenge.
Fair call. Should have made it clear I was wondering more about the warning/caution/expulsion angle.
In my view it wouldn't be denying a clear goal scoring opportunity as the goal was scored. So no red to the GK on those grounds?
If it was considered dangerous play by either player I presume a red card could apply?
If it is a 50-50 and no dangerous play was deemed to have occurred should there be any cards? Are there other parts to the laws of the game that may lead to a red card in a situation like the above?
If we were to assume that there was no red card offence in the above I would guess a yellow card could be a distinct possibility depending on the referee's view on the fairness of the challenge etc.
it could have only been for a dangerous challenge (you'd hope it wasn't for DOGSO since a goal was given..). 50/50 is such a deceiving phrase. The striker won the ball, they were in possession. It wasn't a collision, it was a foul by the keeper. If that foul was dangerous, it would probably warrant a red card. Hard to say without having seen the actual challenge.
...50/50 is such a deceiving phrase. The striker won the ball, they were in possession. It wasn't a collision, it was a foul by the keeper...
In this situation, as I posed it, I'd agree that the striker would be deemed in possession of the ball. On the flipside if the keeper had made contact with the ball first, controlled or otherwise, would the keeper also then have fouled the striker?
And I'd consider this a hypothetical situation. It stemmed from a challenge I didn't witness but it got me thinking about all of the different permutations.
Back when I was playing as a keeper I'd never really considered situations like these.
yes, possibly. If it was a dangerous challenge. I'm guessing the keeper did in fact get sent off then. It's hard to tell without having seen the challenge, but the lateness of it may have been a factor for the referee.
And I'd consider this a hypothetical situation. It stemmed from a challenge I didn't witness but it got me thinking about all of the different permutations.
Back when I was playing as a keeper I'd never really considered situations like these.
You can be first to the ball but still commit a foul though - if you go in studs up for instance
And I'd consider this a hypothetical situation. It stemmed from a challenge I didn't witness but it got me thinking about all of the different permutations.
Back when I was playing as a keeper I'd never really considered situations like these.
It's hard to comment on general situations like this, because there are so many different variables that all come into play in deciding what the decision is.
Much easier to comment on video footage of an incident, because all the factors needing to be taken into account can be seen.
I remember a game I played in high school where an opposition striker broke through our line. Our keeper came flying out of his box and leapt in to challenge the guy with both feet studs up and off the ground. He absolutely cleaned him out and parried the ball away with his hands in the process. The ref, who was the opposition coach, waved play on... it was ridiculous. But our keeper was first to the ball I think.
I remember a game I played in high school where an opposition striker broke through our line. Our keeper came flying out of his box and leapt in to challenge the guy with both feet studs up and off the ground. He absolutely cleaned him out and parried the ball away with his hands in the process. The ref, who was the opposition coach, waved play on... it was ridiculous. But our keeper was first to the ball I think.
Prison rules in Palmy though right ;)
I remember a game I played in high school where an opposition striker broke through our line. Our keeper came flying out of his box and leapt in to challenge the guy with both feet studs up and off the ground. He absolutely cleaned him out and parried the ball away with his hands in the process. The ref, who was the opposition coach, waved play on... it was ridiculous. But our keeper was first to the ball I think.
Prison rules in Palmy though right ;)
Big mistake from the ref in the Liverpool v Leicester game.
Leicester player was 3 steps into the penalty area before the ball left it in the lead up to the Leicester goal. That's how he was in position to put pressure on Lucas. I cant understand how a prem ref or lino could have missed it as it was so obvious.
You can hardly blame the ref in this instance. Mignolet played the ball to Lucas who was outside the 18 yard box and never encroached. The Liverpool player inside the box was never involved in the play and indeed was on the other side of the box. And you are wrong, the Leicester player was never in the box when the kick was made.
You're clutching at straws.
This is a moment just after Mignolet kicked the ball:
Big mistake from the ref in the Liverpool v Leicester game.
Leicester player was 3 steps into the penalty area before the ball left it in the lead up to the Leicester goal. That's how he was in positioned to put pressure on Lucas. I cant understand how a prem ref or lino could have missed it as it was so obvious.
I haven't seen the incident in question but I think you're wrong.
Big mistake from the ref in the Liverpool v Leicester game.
Leicester player was 3 steps into the penalty area before the ball left it in the lead up to the Leicester goal. That's how he was in positioned to put pressure on Lucas. I cant understand how a prem ref or lino could have missed it as it was so obvious.
I haven't seen the incident in question but I think you're wrong.
Law 16: If an opponent enters the penalty area before the ball is in play the goal kick should be retaken.
Big mistake from the ref in the Liverpool v Leicester game.
Leicester player was 3 steps into the penalty area before the ball left it in the lead up to the Leicester goal. That's how he was in positioned to put pressure on Lucas. I cant understand how a prem ref or lino could have missed it as it was so obvious.
I haven't seen the incident in question but I think you're wrong.
Law 16. Opponents must be outside the penalty area until the ball is on play. Ball is in play when it leaves the penalty area.
As what he then did is not mentioned the law the correct decision would be re take the goal.kick if the opponent entered PA before ball left PA.
Cheers
so did the Leicester player enter the box or what? Cos he ain't in that pic
so did the Leicester player enter the box or what? Cos he ain't in that pic
In that video from 12mins Howard Webb explains the rule and why the goal should have been disallowed.
ta that makes it clear. Player who put pressure on defender entered penalty
area before ball left penalty area. Should be retake.
Big mistake from the ref in the Liverpool v Leicester game.
Leicester player was 3 steps into the penalty area before the ball left it in the lead up to the Leicester goal. That's how he was in positioned to put pressure on Lucas. I cant understand how a prem ref or lino could have missed it as it was so obvious.
I haven't seen the incident in question but I think you're wrong.
Law 16: If an opponent enters the penalty area before the ball is in play the goal kick should be retaken.
I stand corrected. Thank you!
You can hardly blame the ref in this instance. Mignolet played the ball to Lucas who was outside the 18 yard box and never encroached. The Liverpool player inside the box was never involved in the play and indeed was on the other side of the box. And you are wrong, the Leicester player was never in the box when the kick was made.
You're clutching at straws.
This is a moment just after Mignolet kicked the ball:
Sorry liberty but you're the one whos got it wrong.
Horrible blunder by the ref, lucky it didnt affect the outcome of the game
You can hardly blame the ref in this instance. Mignolet played the ball to Lucas who was outside the 18 yard box and never encroached. The Liverpool player inside the box was never involved in the play and indeed was on the other side of the box. And you are wrong, the Leicester player was never in the box when the kick was made.
You're clutching at straws.
This is a moment just after Mignolet kicked the ball:
Sorry liberty but you're the one whos got it wrong.
Horrible blunder by the ref, lucky it didnt affect the outcome of the game
Ball still travelling away from keeper.
How bad is that touch though
How bad is that touch though
liverpool player should of just stopped the ball leaving the box and it would be a retake.
if he didn't know this rule then don't play the short goal kick to him.
liverpool player should of just stopped the ball leaving the box and it would be a retake.
if he didn't know this rule then don't play the short goal kick to him.
To true, players as well as refs should know the rules.
liverpool player should of just stopped the ball leaving the box and it would be a retake.
if he didn't know this rule then don't play the short goal kick to him.
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There's no law against being inside the box while a goal kick is taken. The laws only states that the ball isn't in play until it leaves the penalty area.
I haven't seen the incident in question but I think you're wrong.
Law 16: If an opponent enters the penalty area before the ball is in play the goal kick should be retaken.
I stand corrected. Thank you!
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Me too...
Have to say, law seems an ass to me. Ball is in play when penalty taker strikes it from the 12 yard spot (i.e. players can then enter the box and penalty arc).
Not sure why the law makers think goal kicks need to be different from other re-initiations of play.
Me too...
Have to say, law seems an ass to me. Ball is in play when penalty taker strikes it from the 12 yard spot (i.e. players can then enter the box and penalty arc).
Not sure why the law makers think goal kicks need to be different from other re-initiations of play.