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The artist formerly known as dbart
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Believe me, theres plenty of lemmings in World of Tanks,  nothing worse that watching a fully formed lemming train heading off down the valley in Lakeville

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Was thinking maybe Stevo should try Banzai Run.  Many sessions at Cat's Pyjamas in the square in ChCh (and their deep fried mushrooms).  Fun times (before the racists moved in).



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 This one was way too hard for me

The artist formerly known as dbart
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Junior82 wrote:

 This one was way too hard for me

me also...
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Re-installing WOT.


Marquee
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10 battles with this 2nite.  It might be rubbish, but rapid fire guns FTW!

Woof Woof
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Junior82 wrote:

But I do need strategy.  I need "What if the Axis had done this?" questions (the key to wargaming). 


See - this is what I don't get about your game.

Both the North African and Eastern Front were campaigns of attrition.  At any level the Eastern Front was a loser option for the little Austrian.  May have been a goe-er if Tojo had also joined in from the other side, but he was too busy experimenting on the rest of Asia.

Even if you imposed Teutonic rule in the East, you'd still tie up significant resources there while Tommy, Yankee and all the rest of the "Free World" would roll you back from Western Europe and through Africa/Italy.

But keep us posted!



Not really sure I agree with that. The North African campaign is significantly overplayed by the Western allies, but it was really a mere sideshow while the real stuff was going on in the East. If the Germans found a way to win the war in the East (which admittedly would have almost been mission impossible, at least in terms of total victory there), the Western allies would have had massive problems in trying to get a foothold in Europe.
Legend
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No disagreement! The Eastern Front was were most of the resources were committed and wasted.  North Africa was the other active front but was small potatoes compared with Operation Get Stuck in the Mud and Over Extend Yourself.


But both were basically about who had the most things to throw at each other for longer.


So, if there was victory in the East - how quickly could that have been achieved and how much resources could then be redirected to drive Monty and co back to Gibraltar and shore up the West?  I think it would have been hard to do that adequately.

As soon as good ol USA, USA joined in the party the evil Axis was on limited time.




Legend
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PS I do take issue with North Africa being significantly overplayed.


How can any campaign that gave rise to the LRDG be "significantly overplayed"?


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Junior82 wrote:


So, if there was victory in the East - how quickly could that have been achieved and how much resources could then be redirected to drive Monty and co back to Gibraltar and shore up the West?  I think it would have been hard to do that adequately.

As soon as good ol USA, USA joined in the party the evil Axis was on limited time.



I don't think Germans had a realistic chance of winning in the East. Such a victory would have to come quickly (which is what the Germans were hoping for, but clearly didn't happen), and that would require such a set of fortuitous circumstances and set of events to basically make the idea just short of a complete fantasy. One thing that might have made a difference was 'hearts and minds' approach to the Ukrainians especially, and others who initially saw Germans as liberators. Such an approach could have made the supply lines a bit more secure, perhaps would have given less incentive to the Red Army conscripts to fight as hard as they did. But that wasn't on the Nazi agenda, so again it's not realistic to point to it.

But if something like this did happen, getting into Europe and staying there would have been very hard for the Yanks/Brits. Took them years to build the capacity to actually do it, and second-rate German (and a lot of non-German!) troops held them under check, and even had them on the run in the Ardennes, for a hell of a long time. If the Germans hadn't lost/weren't still losing armies, men and equipment fighting the Russians, the Western allies would have had a hell of struggle to do anything serious in Europe. They maybe wouldn't have even tried.

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Junior82 wrote:

PS I do take issue with North Africa being significantly overplayed.


How can any campaign that gave rise to the LRDG be "significantly overplayed"?



It all basically comes down to Churchill. He wrote (well, he supervised a team writing) his six-volume memoir of World War Two in the immediate aftermath of the War, and because of his popularity and respect he commanded at the time, this essentially became the standard view of the War in the West until the 1990s.

Of course, that view was heavily skewed. Churchill had his own agenda to pursue in documenting the War, and the role the Red Army played in defeating the Germans was significantly underplayed (or was almost non-existent). This obviously wasn't helped by the fact that documents and sources from the USSR were not available until the 1990s (when significant revisions of the War start happening in the West).

The other corollary of Churchill's agenda is overplaying the British importance in winning the War, and this where North Africa comes into play. North Africa was really an Italian toy, the Germans were never overly interested (they wanted to go beyond the Caucasus in the East), but supported the Italians in their capacity as Axis allies (Italians reciprocated on the Eastern front, but probably shouldn't have bothered). Indeed, the fact that Rommel was able to be as successful as he was in North Africa commanding a ragtag bunch of substandard Italian troops is telling in itself. Both Wavell and Auchinleck got very bad press for their performances, while Monty got the praise, although he mainly benefited from the fact that he got better armour than his predecessors had had, and he was able to draw on the existing experience of desert warfare which Wavell in particular had had to learn on the run. But it is notable that the Western ally successes really started coming into focus after the shit hit the fan (for the Germans) in the East.

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Yes, but LRDG...

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So in conclusion. 

War is bad, Facism is bad, the Nazis were bad, LRDG were the dogs bollocks.


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Love it how you can fire 150+ rounds (easily) in just one game.  Superb.

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Marquee
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The art of fire and manoeuvre.  In a T-34 (which was outclassed in this battle).  Could see what Munk was doing.  But to have the balls and finger dexterity is another.  Got him 2 (and a half) kills.  They must have shat their pants.  Transformed the battle.  Impressive stuff.

Marquee
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Just 15 battles difference...so near, yet so far...

Starting to handle this properly now.  Sure, it dies 80% of the time.  And my hit ratio is going down the toilet - but it's almost lethal, if you know what you're doing...don't you just love the camo job, too?

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Another arcade classic which I see you can get on PC.

This and Banzai Run were a staple for me in ChCh during the late 80s, early 90s. Other than Cat's Pyjamas there was a small video arcade a few doors down from the old Main St Cafe (in Colombo Street).  Games I think were 40 cents back then (60 cents @ Cat's Pyjamas).




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Junior82 wrote:
but was small potatoes compared with Operation Get Stuck in the Mud and Over Extend Yourself.
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Wins versing loses: the difference is down to just 9 now...

What's gonna happen first?  Reach the goal (50%-50%)?   Or a losing streak/WoT temper tanty?  Nervous times. 

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After my distressing time with the Vickers Medium and the D1 I was feeling the same way about climbing the french TD line and started hating all of them but I now love the ue57.  It's so teeny and can't take a shot but the 6pdr is snappy and it'a almost invisible.  In fact I have sacked my long standing Marder in favour of it.  I've even given it a (temporary) camo and NZ flag scheme.

Hating on the the Somua the next level up currently.  It may look like Perry the Platapus but it has no 'Agent P' - it's just a bit shit.  Hoping new guns will make it bearable but they are a way off.

Had a pretty poor run yesterday, barely stayed above 50%.  Did get a TopGun in my T40, and got a (M) Mastery in my BT after bringing my team back from down on Karelia.  Took coommand, ordered them around, got 4 kills and had an impact on the deaths of 11 of their tanks.

Ran into two cocks as well.  Chuchill pilot named Bork and a T18 pilot named IIGloryII (and a clan name).  If you see either of them feel free to 'accidentally' light them up.

Marquee
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Played Province Map last night.  From the "unfair" side of the valley.  Just tried to stay alive.  Hid.  Taking pop-shots.  Killed one enemy.  A couple of us kept them at bay.  They were scared.  But finally, it was me against four enemy.  Ran out of ammo (fired 320 rounds - the Panzer II is hopeless on this map).  They capped with about 3 minutes left.  I Banzai charged.  "Lit up" about five metres short of my intended kamikaze victim.  Epic.

Marquee
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Played Province Map last night.  From the "unfair" side of the valley.  Just tried to stay alive.  Hid.  Taking pop-shots.  Killed one enemy.  A couple of us kept them at bay.  They were scared.  But finally, it was me against four enemy.  Ran out of ammo (fired 320 rounds - the Panzer II is hopeless on this map).  They capped with about 3 minutes left.  I Banzai charged.  "Lit up" about five metres short of my intended kamikaze victim.  Epic.

 

I love Province. Just never seems to spawn though.

The artist formerly known as dbart
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I think province is solely for tier 1 and 2 and occasionally t3 -higher tiers wont get it -I remember getting the scout medal once just by sitting there in my Marder II with binos on -spotted the whole team without moving

Early retirement
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I'm hoping I will get that if I ever get there in the UE 57.

Only ran a 33% win rate last night.  Although as it was only three battles it's not so bad.

Starting XI
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I have been playing Dwarf Fortress recently.



Currently have Children fighting cats/dogs in a pit. I suspected vampirism, so I needed a full proof strategy to cleanse the evil. Though one of the kids did bite a dog, awaiting results, will be somewhat embarrasing if they aren't indeed vampires.

3rd XI
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how long does it take to download world of tanks? and do i need any specs to run it of my crappy desktop
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I run it on a crappy laptop (November 2009, not heavy graphics) just need to turn the graphics settings down.

Download of client is a few hours.

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As well as the win ratio above 50%, I also aim to get my kills to games ratio to 1:1. I just got it up to a kill every 2 battles with a 4 kill battle just then. Onwards and upwards.

Victorys are at 49% which is a little disappointing. 

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Azevo wrote:

I have been playing Dwarf Fortress recently.



Currently have Children fighting cats/dogs in a pit. I suspected vampirism, so I needed a full proof strategy to cleanse the evil. Though one of the kids did bite a dog, awaiting results, will be somewhat embarrasing if they aren't indeed vampires.


Your opening sentence intrigued me.  Your next repulsed me (I hate dogs unless they are in a hot pot or stew), your final one sounds promising...

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My win ratio is good (thanks Munk) but my kill ratio needs work.  It's about 0.85.

1385 battles for 1176 kills.  Not helped by trying to grind some real rubbish but even my BT is getting a few kills now.

My top 10 on number of battles.  I no longer have the T-57 and have retired from Artillery.  Dumped the Marder at the weekend and until I get another slot will be without the M2 Light although I would like to run one again.

Currently have in the shed:

T40 - BT7 - SU-85B (My primary units) - Hetzer, T18, Wolverine, Ue.57, Somua Sau-40, Churchill.

Contemplating the Tier 3 French premium (If I get some gold on board) and also grinding to the new German Vk20.01 that Munk and Junior News are both getting into - That would need Gold for a slot though.

My T40 crew is on 98% of camo.  Just working to the 100% to get 6th sense and then advance other skills.  My BT crew are just under 50% for camo.  My SU crew approaching 100% so i can set them on Camo.

Marquee
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Got within four victories to attaining the magical 50-50% split (thx to a Munk plat in my KV-1).  Fell away afterwards though, in my Panzer II.  Losing streak.  Kill ratios improving.  But still searching for my ideal "tank".  Thinking of fully moving into the scouting role (tier III "hyper" Panzer II)...but won't move on until I've fulfilled "Operation Parity".  Played Province again last night.  Got wasted....at a loss on how the team starting directly behind  that main building (the one with the kind of court thing in the middle of it) can win...

Early retirement
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I've made my BT my super scout.  Net, binocs, camo crew and vents.  I'll try and get my glorious moment where I drove into the middle of Malinovka, sat behind the tree line and lit up every single enemy tank.  We were 7 or 8-2 up within minutes and they hadn't left their lines and had no idea how (nor did my team).  Then I took off and kamikazed their arty.

Game. Over.

I have played in wins their, and losses on the other side.  You need someone with good range to get in under the north hill and light up what is on the hill so it can be taken out before getting up the path and working along.  Also needs the opposition to be feeble about doing the same thing at the other end.

Marquee
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Scouting does seem to be highly specialised...would be interesting...but it's a big move...


PS: Still hate being under fire...panic attacks...

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Same. Very much the same.  I'd say 1 in 10 times it comes off for me deliberately.  Another 3 in 10 I fluke success and the other 6 I'm toast in close ombat.

The idea of flanking them like Munk never comes me.  I suspect that if I can get my head around this it will unlock every option for me instead of my career as mainly a sniper.  Even with paired TDs with Munk if I can get this sorted we should be able to help each other out more.

Also need 6th sense as I get flattened by arty too often - usually due to lack of common sense.  Two battles I wish I could go back and scream 'move' at myself in in the last few days. Both on Abbey.

Scoutwise go and look at tazilon's site (www.tazilon.net).  It's the bible for scouting.  I even use it in my TD.  On El Halluf if our lights don't go to the pool I go and try and disrupt their lights coming that way.  I usually die but at least I stop them screwing our arty and positions.

The artist formerly known as dbart
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Scouting does seem to be highly specialised...would be interesting...but it's a big move...


PS: Still hate being under fire...panic attacks...

 I spent a long long time in just TDs -i think you can learn the maps and gameplay while remaining in camo up the back -when i started off,i set small goals for myself -stay alive for a long as possible, then a kill every game, then started looking at the win/loss ratio- slowly getting the wins building up to equal the losses,then that magic day where I had 1 more win than losses - then watching that gap slowly grow (in the right direction)
Anyway Stevo, we will do a training room - you get your KV, ill get the pz1c vermin and spray you with machine gun fire until the panic attacks stop..
Starting XI
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Continuing on from Dwarf Fortress, the children escaped the 'Fight club' and ran out of the fort only to be killed by wandering wilder beasts. One of my miners decided to snap and go crazy, ended up massacring the entire populous with his pic. 




Legend
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Anyone played pou popper?


The artist formerly known as dbart
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Platooning with Siggy, I start backing up to change direction, suddenly i explode -i think wow-nice shot arty -turns out its Siggy -timing is everything - oh how ve laughed... heres a picture of my smoking wreck, and the guilty party speeding away.. one day Roger Fitch,one dayyyyy

Tegal
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Haha classic. 

I took a shot in my TD once, just as some idiot went straight in front of me. He raged but it was his own stupid fault. 

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