Peter yes i agree with you the East Coast Bays boys are better than majority of Waikato based players, however still not going to get Waikato into the players. Surely its about time to give the locals a run, who cares if they dont make the play offs because you wont make the playoffs with what you got at the moment.
Hard news, i generally quite enjoy your comments, but you just did not throw Caleb Rufer in the same line as Rojas and Wood?? Caleb Rufer is deadset awful.The WaiBOP United Thread
playoffs not players**
I was short on names as I tried to think of more, so I threw Rufer in for the laughs.
I have only seen Caleb play once and thought he was rubbish. So I was wondering about that as well
What I am saying is the players at the moment they have playing for them are better then what the Waikato area can produce at the moment.
I am not saying that they dont ever produce some quality.
I am not saying that they dont ever produce some quality.
Aaron Scott(Waitak), Matt Williams, Adam Thomas(ACFC), Matt Gibbons, Sam Margetts, Steven Holloway, David Samson, Michael Mayne, Che Bunce..
all developed in the Waikato and available to play now as far as I know? That's 9... add a couple of the imports that have played in the region of late - Jason Chewins, Ceri James.... and you have a not bad LOCAL side???
MrWaikato2010-12-22 14:28:27
Breaking News...
Wakato FC have folded and have told NZ Football they want to remove themselves from ASB Premiership with immediate effect. Although NZ Football have asked Waikato to find a backer over xmas just to finish the season off....only one round to go.
Maybe we will get a 3rd Auckland team in next year then!!
Wakato FC have folded and have told NZ Football they want to remove themselves from ASB Premiership with immediate effect. Although NZ Football have asked Waikato to find a backer over xmas just to finish the season off....only one round to go.
Maybe we will get a 3rd Auckland team in next year then!!
Seems a bit odd if there's only one game left
when i say one round i meant, 1 round of 7 games left...
Or one 'round robin'.
shouldve stayed at ngarawhaia...what a shambles franchise.
shouldve stayed at ngarawhaia...what a shambles franchise.
Where did you hear this breaking news?
when i say one round i meant, 1 round of 7 games left...
Sorry, my bad. Was rushing to get home.
Give us a source. Other wise it means crap all
Peter all i can say is that its come from some one high up at one of the franchises. Im not going to name names. But mate you heard it hear first.
R.I.P Waikato FC....sad around Xmas time.
R.I.P Waikato FC....sad around Xmas time.
When I get some thing solid I will believe u
It is hard to believe, because when I hear some important story and I can�t say any name from the people they�ve said them, then it seems to us that there are people they only want to look important for the other. No matter if you, or the people they have said you this.
To be honest, this kind of talk is actually quite negligent. We don't need to be running on rumour and innuendo and sh*t like this (whether its true or not) and it shouldn't be done in the manner you have.
Either quote a sauce or admit your lies.
Either quote a sauce or admit your lies.
Now now, it is perfectly feasible that people hear things from reputable sources and can't name them for all sorts of reasons. Happens in the media all the time.
I for one, will believe Mr Rabbit until proven otherwise. I need no source for a forum thread.
I for one, will believe Mr Rabbit until proven otherwise. I need no source for a forum thread.
Jeff dont shoot the messenger. Whether you like it or not it is fact and will be in the media soon. Why should i give my sources name when you cant give us yours.
You heard it here first. They have to find a backer over the xmas break, i doubt they will find one.
Funny thing is ive heard a few people around the grounds in recent weeks saying Waikato are in big strife so not sure why this is a shock to some people.
Funny thing is ive heard a few people around the grounds in recent weeks saying Waikato are in big strife so not sure why this is a shock to some people.
Jeff dont shoot the messenger. Whether you like it or not it is fact and will be in the media soon. Why should i give my sources name when you cant give us yours.
You heard it here first. They have to find a backer over the xmas break, i doubt they will find one.
Funny thing is ive heard a few people around the grounds in recent weeks saying Waikato are in big strife so not sure why this is a shock to some people.
Funny thing is ive heard a few people around the grounds in recent weeks saying Waikato are in big strife so not sure why this is a shock to some people.
No surprise they are in strife with the amount the coaches and players will be being paid in travel expenses alone! Can bet the coaches won't be doing it for free either!!!
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No surprise they are in strife with the amount the coaches and players will be being paid in travel expenses alone! Can bet the coaches won't be doing it for free either!!!
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I dont think the club ever recovered from the signings they made a few years back in which these players apparently were bought in on big money from Auckland. Declen Edge signed Danielle Donnegan and Mike Devetter and Henry Hahn...well thats what it said in their opening programme this season.
Waikato have spent alot of money on nobodys, they dont spend wisely thats for certain, but still sad for a region that has produced the odd good footballer.
opps typo Daniel not Danielle***
Who are Waikato Fc's main sponsor this season anyway? did they have one?
Who are Waikato Fc's main sponsor this season anyway? did they have one?
opps typo Daniel not Danielle***
Who are Waikato Fc's main sponsor this season anyway? did they have one?
Who are Waikato Fc's main sponsor this season anyway? did they have one?
Don't think we have one and the Rugby Club are charging big time I think for ground hire and food etc..
Also the coaches are being paid well from what I hear.
Hate to say it again bu the best season we had was when we did everything for free. Coaches and players signed for free, performed well and then as I understand it as a result of success attracted some sponsorship so were reimbursed expenses.
THE WAY IT SHOULD BE - performance based 'pay'...
opps typo Daniel not Danielle***Who are Waikato Fc's main sponsor this season anyway? did they have one?
Don't think we have one and the Rugby Club are charging big time I think for ground hire and food etc..Also the coaches are being paid well from what I hear.Hate to say it again bu the best season we had was when we did everything for free. Coaches and players signed for free, performed well and then as I understand it as a result of success attracted some sponsorship so were reimbursed expenses.THE WAY IT SHOULD BE - performance based 'pay'...
here's an article which could shed more light on the matter:
Waikato FC admit that they are in financial trouble � but will continue to have a team in the national soccer competition.
The Fred Jones Park-based franchise have struggled to obtain grant money recently and have gone to New Zealand Football (NZF) to let them know about their situation.
Waikato FC chairman Brendon Coker said NZF were not helping Waikato FC financially but were working through some issues with them.
The Waikato Times understands that could mean giving the franchise more time to pay their third and final instalment of the ASB Premiership entry fee, but Coker was not prepared to reveal details regarding that.
Having signed a two-year licence for the competition earlier in the year, Waikato FC sought NZF's support to make sure they would still be meeting the terms and conditions of the agreement.
Coker said they wanted to be "open and honest" with the national body when they first approached them two to three months ago and informed them of their struggling financial state.
"The board took the approach that the best way was to highlight this to New Zealand Football, we'd put a plan in place, identify areas where we need to obviously look at our income and what we could do, and work towards that plan. And that's still what we're doing.
"They've told us they will support us and work through it."
Waikato FC don't have any debtors as they have fully paid all their accounts on time, the players are not allowed to be paid in the amateur competition, and all the team's sponsors are still on board.
But 70 to 80 per cent of their income comes through grants from trusts, which Coker said caused timing issues, depending on when they were able to get the funds.
"These are difficult times, we know that," he said. "It's a tough economic time out there, we're not hiding the fact around that.
"You're competing heavily with other organisations to get the necessary money needed to participate."
Coker said the franchise was also proactive in looking for more sponsors and other sources of income and there were "no concerns going forward".
Halfway through the round-robin, Waikato FC are sixth in the eight-team ASB Premiership with two wins, a draw and four losses.
It is apparent WFC have again made the same mistakes they have for years and they will never learn. Coaching staff and 14 players from Auckland!!! Good your developing your young players again. Don't give me the bs that none of the players will play for WFC, the only one not paying is Aaron Scott and you can't blame him for wanting to play O league. As for Matt W and Che Bunce, these guys have young families and have played back to back football since the inception of the league. No more excuses Waikato, there is no quick fix. Put in a local coach, get all the best young players and if you need to get 3 - 4 quality players from out of town, do it. looking at the table, a team of local 17 year olds would probably do as well. The funny thing is, the quality of the league is the worst it has ever been and that is only thanks to NZS not allowing the Auckland clubs to spend money on players.
...NZS not allowing the Auckland clubs to spend money on players
Ha ha ha ha ha
Hard News2010-12-26 17:43:51
Mulligan must be struggling to pay his bills if he doesn't have an income source.
Mulligan must be struggling to pay his bills if he doesn't have an income source.
If anyone can get Mulligan, Ivan or Roy to tell you the last time they actually did a days work then I'll give you $50
As much as people want to cry and whinge that Auckland City And Waitakere Utd paying players at the end of the day these players help their clubs win money and some of that money even goes to clubs like Waikato FC. So those clubs and those players are too the smaller clubs benefit. Its up to other franchises to attract people who would want to spend money on big players. These big names help the league because without the likes of Mulligan, Vicelich and Krishna the league would be dredful and of a such poor standard it would attract no attendance and kill off the game here.
Just my thoughts....people will always debate...
I can see your point of view Rabbit but on one hand you advocate bringing in players to win games and bring money to the 'big' clubs (and thus smaller clubs) but you have a problem when Waikato do it by bringing in players on a large scale? (granted not the same calibre)
I don't see how you can take cracks at Waikato for trying to bring in players to become better (and its not entirely an end game result that they will be a better side at the end of the league) but yet advocate the bigger sides doing it 'for winning money and the betterment of the league'
I don't see how you can take cracks at Waikato for trying to bring in players to become better (and its not entirely an end game result that they will be a better side at the end of the league) but yet advocate the bigger sides doing it 'for winning money and the betterment of the league'
Any word on Tewi te Pou's english trials?
He has trials with Reading, Ipswich Town and Watford.
http://www.whakatanebeacon.co.nz/cms/sport/2010/12/art10008346.phpKlinge152011-01-02 23:50:17
http://www.whakatanebeacon.co.nz/cms/sport/2010/12/art10008346.phpKlinge152011-01-02 23:50:17
No way he's Championship level, but might as well take the opportunity
1-0 v Hawke's Bay, probably deserved. milos with another goal
...NZS not allowing the Auckland clubs to spend money on players
Ha ha ha ha ha
Where are all the Waikato boo boys now?
Is there anyone that at least went to the Hawkes bay game that can give me a run down on whether Waikato played well, and players who did/didn't do well?
Would be much appreciated.
Sure. It was a bit scappy, were dominated in first 30, but came back well and probably deserved the win. Zoghby was superb at centre-back, way better than Strom, Branch good as always, McKeown Palmer and Nickolic all were good, and Maksim had some very good runs, pity he can't really defend
What did people think of the penalty and handball decisions? By the sounds of it three points lost for Otago based on poor decision making from two players.