That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Fritz Schmid - All Whites babysitter
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
It was a joke. The distance between us and the Eastern most country of Asia is further than us and the western must country of South America.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Good use of my tax money.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Could use of my tax money.
Although there is a major benefit for us being in Oceania which has been a huge help in our footballing progress in the last 15-20 years. The fact we qualify for all age group world cups, male and female, as well as the olympics. If we leave oceania that all stops. Australia for example didnt participate in qualifying in 2007 and have qualified 5 times out of 10 for the u17 men. Their u20s have failed to qualify the last 3 times. Their u17 womens team havent qualified ever.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Good use of my tax money.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Could use of my tax money.
Although there is a major benefit for us being in Oceania which has been a huge help in our footballing progress in the last 15-20 years. The fact we qualify for all age group world cups, male and female, as well as the olympics. If we leave oceania that all stops. Australia for example didnt participate in qualifying in 2007 and have qualified 5 times out of 10 for the u17 men. Their u20s have failed to qualify the last 3 times. Their u17 womens team havent qualified ever.
Is that a reflection on the strength Aisa or show how weak Aus are? I'd rather u17 not qualify but play likes of Japan, Korea Aus, etc in quilifers sure as much benefit that as there is playing the likes of cook islands and qualifying though ofc.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Good use of my tax money.
Although there is a major benefit for us being in Oceania which has been a huge help in our footballing progress in the last 15-20 years. The fact we qualify for all age group world cups, male and female, as well as the olympics. If we leave oceania that all stops. Australia for example didnt participate in qualifying in 2007 and have qualified 5 times out of 10 for the u17 men. Their u20s have failed to qualify the last 3 times. Their u17 womens team havent qualified ever.
For sure it's great having all our age group (and FFs) teams qualify direct for World Cups through the weak OFC path.
But just bear in mind, many of that talented U20 squad will now barely set foot in NZ, to play again. That's if we stay in the OFC.
Will most likely get worse post 2022 (at least we still have a high stakes inter continental home playoff game in March 2022), with OFC having automatic WC qualification (1.5 spots) for USA 2026 & beyond.
Just 4-6 low quality home games against the OFC minnows in the last 1-2 years of a World Cup cycle. European players deciding to skip games, because well an A League/domestic based AWs should still win the home OFC qualifiers - some of which may early on in the qualification phase become dull dead rubbers. Probably hardly a game through 2023-2024 (much less any games at home).
You'll just be watching all that playing talent, on your TV or computer screen. That's the future reality.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Good use of my tax money.
Although there is a major benefit for us being in Oceania which has been a huge help in our footballing progress in the last 15-20 years. The fact we qualify for all age group world cups, male and female, as well as the olympics. If we leave oceania that all stops. Australia for example didnt participate in qualifying in 2007 and have qualified 5 times out of 10 for the u17 men. Their u20s have failed to qualify the last 3 times. Their u17 womens team havent qualified ever.
For sure it's great having all our age group (and FFs) teams qualify direct for World Cups through the weak OFC path.
But just bear in mind, many of that talented U20 squad will now barely set foot in NZ, to play again. That's if we stay in the OFC.
Will most likely get worse post 2022 (at least we still have a high stakes inter continental home playoff game in March 2022), with OFC having automatic WC qualification (1.5 spots) for USA 2026 & beyond.
Just 4-6 low quality home games against the OFC minnows in the last 1-2 years of a World Cup cycle. European players deciding to skip games, because well an A League/domestic based AWs should still win the home OFC qualifiers - some of which may early on in the qualification phase become dull dead rubbers. Probably hardly a game through 2023-2024 (much less any games at home).
You'll just be watching all that playing talent, on your TV or computer screen. That's the future reality.
The biggest reason why there's nothing now – money – would only become more of an issue if NZ woke up tomorrow in Asia.
That'd almost be as crazy as a country like Israel playing in Oceania, imagine that?
Or Israel playing in europe
That's a very specific situation. Complicated political factors, plus the distance involved is pretty minor.
Perhaps Jacinda could order co-ordinated invasions of New Caledonia, Vanuatu & Tahiti. They'll all French speaking ain't they, so they should surrender without a shot.
Skip Fiji, they look too militant. Same with the Solomons. Maybe swing the invasion fleet by PNG to finish.
FIFA are bound to find a new home for us outside OFC, after that.
Good use of my tax money.
Although there is a major benefit for us being in Oceania which has been a huge help in our footballing progress in the last 15-20 years. The fact we qualify for all age group world cups, male and female, as well as the olympics. If we leave oceania that all stops. Australia for example didnt participate in qualifying in 2007 and have qualified 5 times out of 10 for the u17 men. Their u20s have failed to qualify the last 3 times. Their u17 womens team havent qualified ever.
For sure it's great having all our age group (and FFs) teams qualify direct for World Cups through the weak OFC path.
But just bear in mind, many of that talented U20 squad will now barely set foot in NZ, to play again. That's if we stay in the OFC.
Will most likely get worse post 2022 (at least we still have a high stakes inter continental home playoff game in March 2022), with OFC having automatic WC qualification (1.5 spots) for USA 2026 & beyond.
Just 4-6 low quality home games against the OFC minnows in the last 1-2 years of a World Cup cycle. European players deciding to skip games, because well an A League/domestic based AWs should still win the home OFC qualifiers - some of which may early on in the qualification phase become dull dead rubbers. Probably hardly a game through 2023-2024 (much less any games at home).
You'll just be watching all that playing talent, on your TV or computer screen. That's the future reality.
The biggest reason why there's nothing now – money – would only become more of an issue if NZ woke up tomorrow in Asia.
What's the funding model for AFC Asian Cup, and World Cup qualifiers?
Each country has to totally fund their own individual campaigns? Negotiate their own TV rights/sponsorship deals?
Or is it funded (partly or wholly) by AFC/FIFA? Talking senior men's.
Pretty sure AFC senior women's and age group qualification (men's & women's) for World Cups, is through one off tournaments same as OFC. Stand to be corrected.
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For sure it's great having all our age group (and FFs) teams qualify direct for World Cups through the weak OFC path.
But just bear in mind, many of that talented U20 squad will now barely set foot in NZ, to play again. That's if we stay in the OFC.
Will most likely get worse post 2022 (at least we still have a high stakes inter continental home playoff game in March 2022), with OFC having automatic WC qualification (1.5 spots) for USA 2026 & beyond.
Just 4-6 low quality home games against the OFC minnows in the last 1-2 years of a World Cup cycle. European players deciding to skip games, because well an A League/domestic based AWs should still win the home OFC qualifiers - some of which may early on in the qualification phase become dull dead rubbers. Probably hardly a game through 2023-2024 (much less any games at home).
You'll just be watching all that playing talent, on your TV or computer screen. That's the future reality.
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I seriously doubt that we would be able to afford all the qualification competitions for all the age group teams for both sexes in Asia. Australia already struggles with this.
Australians barely see their National team, they only see them for the WC qualifiers which is a 1 in 4 year cycle and the rest of the time its tv or computer. Same as us. Its a function of our geographical isolation and small population not being able to produce a fully pro domestic league. Our best players now all head overseas, the Aussies had to get used to this 20 years ago. The current lack of games for the AW's isnt a function of being in Oceania but the result of a very messy period of NZF senior team administration. How many games did Hudson get to have the team player in what sort of time period? Being in Asia would mean once every 4 games we would see some more serious qualifying competition, thats all. It wont result in more home games during the other 3 years, it wont result in more overseas games. Also the death of the Confeds cup and the failure to qualify for one of those saw a serious drop in opportunities for games, being in Asia wont fix that.
The most important thing to having a decent AW team is having the best players we can produce. Nothing else matters except for player quality. The majority of the producing of better quality players happens between the ages of 5 and 17. Sadly the focus ends up on the Asia/Oceania issue and moves away from the absolute key issue of how to produce the best players possible. I wish we saw as much interest in the best possible junior and youth coaching systems as we do in the side issue of Asia/Oceania.
aussie will be playing 10 world cup quilifers between September this year and June next year. How would that not be a better situation for the AW to be in than the current one? Following that they would have Championship quilifers or further world cup quilifers. Each 1 of those games would surely bring in more sponsorship than playing any of the OFC teams not to mention larger gate takings and broadcasting deals.
Age group side in Asia like Euro etc have a qualifying tournament 1 location too get into the u17 AFC champs which in turn act as world cup quilifers.
Schmid on his way out.
Time for a NZ coach?
Danny Hay ?
Bring back Anfony.
Schmid on his way out.
Time for a NZ coach?
Danny Hay ?
Probably bored.
the place is a shambles! Players and clubs hardly told anything 2 weeks before a national team is meant to be heading away...
Good on him if he leaves, plus probably actually wants to be involved with football. Been good paid holiday for him.
As I have said for a while, the All Whites Senior Men's team is an entirely theoretical possibility right now
Schmid resigns from role
New Zealand Football has today announced that Fritz Schmid, the Head Coach of the All Whites, has resigned from his role with the organisation.
Fritz Schmid will be leaving the organisation on 21 June 2019 and will be working with New Zealand Football staff to ensure a smooth transition.
“After careful reflection of my private and professional situation, I have decided to return to Switzerland. I have therefore resigned from NZ Football effective 21 June 2019,” Schmid said.
“I am extremely grateful for my experience at the helm of the All Whites. I have met countless members of the New Zealand football community, who received me with great respect and true open-mindedness.
“I would like to thank all of them for their trust and support during my time at NZF. My special thanks goes to my coaching staff and, most of all, to our players: thank you for granting me the privilege of working with you.
“It's been an exciting time and a true experience on culture and values. I will always remain a loyal supporter of the All Whites.”
Chief Executive Officer Andrew Pragnell said: “New Zealand Football is well-placed to move forward following the contribution made by Fritz. We thank him for his contribution and wish him all the best for the future.”
A media opportunity with Andrew Pragnell will take place today from 3.30pm at New Zealand Football headquarters, please contact Communications Coordinator Daniel Markham to confirm your attendance.
what a shambles!
Someone or something pissed him off, i wonder who.
Someone or something pissed him off, i wonder who.
Assume NZ Football itself. Guy has been here for 16 months, only had four games of which the last one was over a year ago and was just pointed out too me, none of them where in New Zealand either. I mean we sometimes dream of getting paid to do nothing but a bit of a joke if you want to actually do a job.
The announced U23 camp for next week was looking like it wasn't going ahead and NZF had no idea of which players were actually in the country and/or available for that camp and the Pacific Games. He's just realised how badly run that place is.
Related: I would be very surprised if we send a team to the Pacific Games at all now.
The announced U23 camp for next week was looking like it wasn't going ahead and NZF had no idea of which players were actually in the country and/or available for that camp and the Pacific Games. He's just realised how badly run that place is.
Related: I would be very surprised if we send a team to the Pacific Games at all now.
Heads have to roll if that is the case, we didn't qualify from the Olympics last time because of the passport scandal, to then not even send a team to the qualifies would be disaster.
The good news is the PG isn't the qualifying tournament this time around, it's the U23 Champs in September(?)
Can't blame him for leaving. We are a pathetic football nation.
The announced U23 camp for next week was looking like it wasn't going ahead and NZF had no idea of which players were actually in the country and/or available for that camp and the Pacific Games. He's just realised how badly run that place is.
Related: I would be very surprised if we send a team to the Pacific Games at all now.
Heads have to roll if that is the case, we didn't qualify from the Olympics last time because of the passport scandal, to then not even send a team to the qualifies would be disaster.
Heads. What heads? Do they have any actual staff at the moment? So many have left in the last 1-2 years.
Why did Schmid go to Poland with U20’s if planning was not well prepared for U23’s? Why didn’t he leave someone behind to get on with the job of sorting all that out well in advance?
He’s basically had nothing to do for 12 mths, then finally some hands on coaching appears and he’s off. Like today!
NZF need to review the whole International teams setup, for next 2 years and quickly. If they are short of funds, maybe discard the U23 programme this cycle and focus on the AWs.
Football shouldn’t be at the Olympics anyhow.
Buckingham as caretaker AWs coach. Review situation after Irish game and talking to senior players.
Football is the most watched sport at the Olympics and its the World Sport so its natural that they should be at the Olympics
There's a reason football at the Olympics is an U23 tournament, plus three over-age players allowance.
It's an uneasy compromise between FIFA and IOC.
Schmid on his way out.
Time for a NZ coach?
Danny Hay ?
Des Buckingham
Isn't Jose Figeura assistant coach at the moment?
Im guessing he's had issues trying to get a Pacific Games squad together and realising he's going to have issues with the Olympics qualifiers too due to the OFC, tendered his resignation.
Part of his deal to leave might well have been to go to Poland.
Don't forget that Poland was also close to home for him so maybe someone tapped him up with a better job offer.
Surely des Buckingham is the clear replacement here.
Isn't Jose Figeura assistant coach at the moment?
Questionable in itself...
Can the technical director and national coach be the same person?
Buckingham would provide consistency, especially given a lot of his u20 charges would be involved, if not in the qualifying playing at the Olympics if we did indeed qualify.
I would be happy with him or Danny Hay.
The NZF Ceo didn't go in to details, but again he reinterated we need to be smarter and more oganised, for example not hiring coach based on 4 year cycles (every WC campaign) but folowing more of the Rugby frame of 6 years, so a coach gets to cracks, and time to learn and adjust from the first campaign if unsuccessful.
There is only one sensible option, Buckingham. He has shown how we can play and we have enough AW's capable of playing the way Buckingham had the U20's playing. Hay would be awful.
There is only one sensible option, Buckingham. He has shown how we can play and we have enough AW's capable of playing the way Buckingham had the U20's playing. Hay would be awful.
Would he get the respect of senior All Whites who are of a similar age and have played at a higher level than him?
There is only one sensible option, Buckingham. He has shown how we can play and we have enough AW's capable of playing the way Buckingham had the U20's playing. Hay would be awful.
Would he get the respect of senior All Whites who are of a similar age and have played at a higher level than him?
Cant think of a single reason why he wouldnt.
There is only one sensible option, Buckingham. He has shown how we can play and we have enough AW's capable of playing the way Buckingham had the U20's playing. Hay would be awful.
Would he get the respect of senior All Whites who are of a similar age and have played at a higher level than him?
To quote Arrigo Sacchi: " you don't have to have been a horse to be a good jockey".
why would Hay be awful?
Did well with age group teams and ES this year. Honest and upfront character, who is passionate about the jersey.