WPM 2023/24 Squad Speculation, Confirmation and Mutual Termination
He made it pretty clear the first time he left - Melb was clearly the better option at the time - management, ownership and facilities we obs better. Since then he's left and returned to Melbourne, he's literally just invested in their Women's team. It's clearly the place he sees as home.
Interesting article, seems Marco Rojas is still looking for a contract in either the A-League or possibly Europe.
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Attempt was made to re-join Melbourne Victory but it did not eventuate. https://t.co/8QzJpEOUFR
not that it matters - he doesnt want to be here!
he's made that well and truenly clear over the years.
He made it pretty clear the first time he left - Melb was clearly the better option at the time - management, ownership and facilities we obs better. Since then he's left and returned to Melbourne, he's literally just invested in their Women's team. It's clearly the place he sees as home.
Der Berater von Oskar Zawada soll Holländischen gesagt haben dass, der Spieler ein Angebot vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern vorliegen hat.
— 1. FC Kaiserslautern NEWS (@NEWS_FCK1900) August 14, 2023
Barnsley, Rotterdam United und Bordeaux sollen auch interessiert sein
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If we are gonna sell it'd be good if there's a bidding war.
Bordeaux would be the club willing to spend the most but seems they've already brought in two strikers this window.
I might be overanalysing things somewhat, but Mrs. Zawada's upload featuring an empty-looking apartment and the phrase "In progress..." across a European skyline gave me pause. It could be anything, of course, such as a home base in Poland.
No idea what city that is, but my first thoughts were of how close Frankfurt is to Kaiserslautern.
Der Berater von Oskar Zawada soll Holländischen gesagt haben dass, der Spieler ein Angebot vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern vorliegen hat.
— 1. FC Kaiserslautern NEWS (@NEWS_FCK1900) August 14, 2023
Barnsley, Rotterdam United und Bordeaux sollen auch interessiert sein
[Soccernewsnl]#betze #FCK pic.twitter.com/yYT6DUNbu8
If we are gonna sell it'd be good if there's a bidding war.
Bordeaux would be the club willing to spend the most but seems they've already brought in two strikers this window.
I might be overanalysing things somewhat, but Mrs. Zawada's upload featuring an empty-looking apartment and the phrase "In progress..." across a European skyline gave me pause. It could be anything, of course, such as a home base in Poland.
No idea what city that is, but my first thoughts were of how close Frankfurt is to Kaiserslautern.
not that it matters - he doesnt want to be here!
he's made that well and truenly clear over the years.
He made it pretty clear the first time he left - Melb was clearly the better option at the time - management, ownership and facilities we obs better. Since then he's left and returned to Melbourne, he's literally just invested in their Women's team. It's clearly the place he sees as home.
Then what? oh well too bad, you made your bed, burned your bridges and now home dont want you.
I go back to my original point, why would we (Nix) want anyone that isnt being chased by other clubs. If Rojas' performance had justified any kind of interest from anywhere then maybe you take a look at him. But, even the clib he ahs been great at isnt interested. That tells me he is either broken, or demanding a wage, fee way above his current value.
Der Berater von Oskar Zawada soll Holländischen gesagt haben dass, der Spieler ein Angebot vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern vorliegen hat.
— 1. FC Kaiserslautern NEWS (@NEWS_FCK1900) August 14, 2023
Barnsley, Rotterdam United und Bordeaux sollen auch interessiert sein
[Soccernewsnl]#betze #FCK pic.twitter.com/yYT6DUNbu8
If we are gonna sell it'd be good if there's a bidding war.
Bordeaux would be the club willing to spend the most but seems they've already brought in two strikers this window.
I might be overanalysing things somewhat, but Mrs. Zawada's upload featuring an empty-looking apartment and the phrase "In progress..." across a European skyline gave me pause. It could be anything, of course, such as a home base in Poland.
No idea what city that is, but my first thoughts were of how close Frankfurt is to Kaiserslautern.
Der Berater von Oskar Zawada soll Holländischen gesagt haben dass, der Spieler ein Angebot vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern vorliegen hat.
— 1. FC Kaiserslautern NEWS (@NEWS_FCK1900) August 14, 2023
Barnsley, Rotterdam United und Bordeaux sollen auch interessiert sein
[Soccernewsnl]#betze #FCK pic.twitter.com/yYT6DUNbu8
If we are gonna sell it'd be good if there's a bidding war.
Bordeaux would be the club willing to spend the most but seems they've already brought in two strikers this window.
I might be overanalysing things somewhat, but Mrs. Zawada's upload featuring an empty-looking apartment and the phrase "In progress..." across a European skyline gave me pause. It could be anything, of course, such as a home base in Poland.
No idea what city that is, but my first thoughts were of how close Frankfurt is to Kaiserslautern.
Relieved as I may be, this was a shameful effort on my end – pretty much GeoGuessr with a full skyline to work with!
[Edited out that double-quote.]
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
Der Berater von Oskar Zawada soll Holländischen gesagt haben dass, der Spieler ein Angebot vom 1. FC Kaiserslautern vorliegen hat.
— 1. FC Kaiserslautern NEWS (@NEWS_FCK1900) August 14, 2023
Barnsley, Rotterdam United und Bordeaux sollen auch interessiert sein
[Soccernewsnl]#betze #FCK pic.twitter.com/yYT6DUNbu8
If we are gonna sell it'd be good if there's a bidding war.
Bordeaux would be the club willing to spend the most but seems they've already brought in two strikers this window.
I might be overanalysing things somewhat, but Mrs. Zawada's upload featuring an empty-looking apartment and the phrase "In progress..." across a European skyline gave me pause. It could be anything, of course, such as a home base in Poland.
No idea what city that is, but my first thoughts were of how close Frankfurt is to Kaiserslautern.
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
I'm old enough to have been with mulltiple employers but I stayed at one for 10 years and with current employer for 5 years - its called loyalty, if they company or club give you a start, train, build your brand you give them time and loyalty. I never expected Rojas to be with us for life, but he literally took all he could from the club/fans and gave us what? nadda, maybe one good month where he received player of the month then he buggered off to Melbourne for better money, facilities, etc - never looked back.
Where's the import CB we were promised?
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
I'm old enough to have been with mulltiple employers but I stayed at one for 10 years and with current employer for 5 years - its called loyalty, if they company or club give you a start, train, build your brand you give them time and loyalty. I never expected Rojas to be with us for life, but he literally took all he could from the club/fans and gave us what? nadda, maybe one good month where he received player of the month then he buggered off to Melbourne for better money, facilities, etc - never looked back.
He did what he was contractually obligated to do and has a very short career so has to make the most of it, if we wanted to keep him for longer we should have given him a longer contract initially or matched what the other clubs were offering, including facilities and opportunities. IIRC there was a bit of a bidding ware for him, and we weren't involved (although Terri later said we'd offered him the youth Marquee spot).
Although loyalty to a club (or job) is commendable, it's also stupid to limit your career. You can't deny that being a foreign player and then marquee at Victory is a better career move than staying at the Nix.
It's also been 12 years, the player would have changed.
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
I'm old enough to have been with mulltiple employers but I stayed at one for 10 years and with current employer for 5 years - its called loyalty, if they company or club give you a start, train, build your brand you give them time and loyalty. I never expected Rojas to be with us for life, but he literally took all he could from the club/fans and gave us what? nadda, maybe one good month where he received player of the month then he buggered off to Melbourne for better money, facilities, etc - never looked back.
He did what he was contractually obligated to do and has a very short career so has to make the most of it, if we wanted to keep him for longer we should have given him a longer contract initially or matched what the other clubs were offering, including facilities and opportunities. IIRC there was a bit of a bidding ware for him, and we weren't involved (although Terri later said we'd offered him the youth Marquee spot).
Although loyalty to a club (or job) is commendable, it's also stupid to limit your career. You can't deny that being a foreign player and then marquee at Victory is a better career move than staying at the Nix.
It's also been 12 years, the player would have changed.
I'm certainlky not trying to say that Melbourne werent the better option for him as far as money, coaching and facilities were concerned - far from it, at the time they were offering a far better prospect than we were. But we're talking about a kid who'd made 20 appearances, after a long term injury - he'd only just started to show what he could do - as brilliant as it may have been. The club that found him and gave him his chance were saying they wanted to continue to develop him and give him game time but he (and his manager - dad) thought he was worth more - and fair cop to them, Victory were offering him what he wanted and he took it, all good. But from my persepctive that just shows a total lack of respect and gratitude to the club and fans. You say he did what he was contracted to do, sure he didnt break a contract. But he spent a lot of time of contract injured and going through rehab - and to repay the work and effort the club put into him, he leaves for more money. There's nothing wrong with it but I'm not gonna welcome him back with open arms. Not that he has said he wants to come back and the club certainly hasnt said they are interested so it's a moot point.
Where's the import CB we were promised?
A week ago I briefly spoke to Domey, who said about the women's visa signings but said there was nothing imminent for the men's. Don't think we'll hear anything for a little while still
The kind of football he is playing is going to look quite different to what Uffie played.
The kind of football he is playing is going to look quite different to what Uffie played.
With Ball and Old under injury clouds there’s been quite a bit of chopping and changing with the forward positions.
In the game vs Olympic, Kosta and Kraev swapped around, Van Hattum got dragged at half time and was made to run for about half an hour. Rudland came on in his place, Supyk was tried up front and then Nguyen played the Aussie cup game.
It’s almost something of a hospital pass to have 3 senior players with a long term conditions like that. Makes the squad balance tricky.
The kind of football he is playing is going to look quite different to what Uffie played.
With Ball and Old under injury clouds there’s been quite a bit of chopping and changing with the forward positions.
In the game vs Olympic, Kosta and Kraev swapped around, Van Hattum got dragged at half time and was made to run for about half an hour. Rudland came on in his place, Supyk was tried up front and then Nguyen played the Aussie cup game.
How did Rudland go when he came on? Thought he was good value in his half hour or so against Peninsula Power in the Australia Cup, although I'm aware of getting too far ahead of myself.
Kosta is the one that burnt bridges by leaving mid contact yet we still brought him back
I still dont think that was a smart move either, he has never been as good at the Nix as he was for all the other Aleague clubs he's been at.
But literally, Rojas's progress from local football to the Nix was funded by the fans - he got his chance, was injured for the early part of it, given another shot and then just as he hit his straps he shows no loyalty and jumps ship for a bigger club - yes I agree they had better everything back then, but loyalty and paying it back to the people who helped you is massive.
I'm old enough to have been with mulltiple employers but I stayed at one for 10 years and with current employer for 5 years - its called loyalty, if they company or club give you a start, train, build your brand you give them time and loyalty. I never expected Rojas to be with us for life, but he literally took all he could from the club/fans and gave us what? nadda, maybe one good month where he received player of the month then he buggered off to Melbourne for better money, facilities, etc - never looked back.
He did what he was contractually obligated to do and has a very short career so has to make the most of it, if we wanted to keep him for longer we should have given him a longer contract initially or matched what the other clubs were offering, including facilities and opportunities. IIRC there was a bit of a bidding ware for him, and we weren't involved (although Terri later said we'd offered him the youth Marquee spot).
Although loyalty to a club (or job) is commendable, it's also stupid to limit your career. You can't deny that being a foreign player and then marquee at Victory is a better career move than staying at the Nix.
It's also been 12 years, the player would have changed.
I'm certainlky not trying to say that Melbourne werent the better option for him as far as money, coaching and facilities were concerned - far from it, at the time they were offering a far better prospect than we were. But we're talking about a kid who'd made 20 appearances, after a long term injury - he'd only just started to show what he could do - as brilliant as it may have been. The club that found him and gave him his chance were saying they wanted to continue to develop him and give him game time but he (and his manager - dad) thought he was worth more - and fair cop to them, Victory were offering him what he wanted and he took it, all good. But from my persepctive that just shows a total lack of respect and gratitude to the club and fans. You say he did what he was contracted to do, sure he didnt break a contract. But he spent a lot of time of contract injured and going through rehab - and to repay the work and effort the club put into him, he leaves for more money. There's nothing wrong with it but I'm not gonna welcome him back with open arms. Not that he has said he wants to come back and the club certainly hasnt said they are interested so it's a moot point.
The kind of football he is playing is going to look quite different to what Uffie played.
With Ball and Old under injury clouds there’s been quite a bit of chopping and changing with the forward positions.
In the game vs Olympic, Kosta and Kraev swapped around, Van Hattum got dragged at half time and was made to run for about half an hour. Rudland came on in his place, Supyk was tried up front and then Nguyen played the Aussie cup game.
How did Rudland go when he came on? Thought he was good value in his half hour or so against Peninsula Power in the Australia Cup, although I'm aware of getting too far ahead of myself.
He’s a lot bigger and stronger looking in person, his profile and play style reminds me a lot more of Waineo than OVH does.
I also don't know if he would be as big of a loss as some seem to believe. He did spurn more big chances than any other striker in the comp with a strike rate of less than 50% in those moments. So whilst he did score some great goals for us, and a decent amount of them. He isn't a finisher.
I also don't know if he would be as big of a loss as some seem to believe. He did spurn more big chances than any other striker in the comp with a strike rate of less than 50% in those moments. So whilst he did score some great goals for us, and a decent amount of them. He isn't a finisher.
I wanna watch him this season l, but I don’t want to watch him and/ or us fail.
If he goes for enough money we can put the focus on Kraev and the kids and build with an aim of 5th this season and winning or top 3 next season.
I feel a solid start with perhaps even making a bit of money in Chief’s first season might incentivize more investment in the team in following seasons.
Aiming too low?
I don't blame the club if they decide to sell Zawada. Be good to see them make some decent money off a transfer.
What do we have now 17 contracted players? So there are going to have to be some in's. Doesn't look like they are trialing any NZ players so I hope Chiefly has something up his sleeve.
That is literally the position Dome has taken recently. Particularly with the sale of Waine.
That is literally the position Dome has taken recently. Particularly with the sale of Waine.
He'd have to impress Italiano a lot if he were to sign a 20-year-old as our last import slot in a position we weren't planning on.