what league are waiheke in? Malcolm McPherson going hard on recruiting?
Northern Leagues
what league are waiheke in? Malcolm McPherson going hard on recruiting?
NRFL Div.1 next season
what league are waiheke in? Malcolm McPherson going hard on recruiting?
Is he now their coach? Jesus wept. No more samba soccer.
the ones at Mangere are better - as long as they don't demand your car keys to supply a padlock for them.
It's actually quite interesting how players value venues based on a room where they spend less time than on the field - some players i know would rather a shark field and superb changing rooms (which seems backwards).
But since we are on this topic - how about a bit of fun with a thread that was posted on the NRFL Forum.
1. Worst Changing Rooms
2. Worst Field
3. Worst Clubrooms
You can post the best ones as well if you want but that's not nearly as much fun.
Ellerslie have neither good changing rooms or good pitch
Worst pitch defo North Shore. Is it even grass? Been the same for about 6 years now. Fudgeing joke outfit they're running there.
Best pitch Shepherds by a mile.
Shepherds? Really
Find me something better.
best three are shepherds, Waitak No 1 and Kiwitea Street. Best clubrooms - Birkenhead and Kiwitea
Away changing rooms at Birkenhead are average at best. Clubrooms not that flash either. But pitch is usual pretty good. Not sure how much that is down to the club though?
the ones at Mangere are better - as long as they don't demand your car keys to supply a padlock for them.
It's actually quite interesting how players value venues based on a room where they spend less time than on the field - some players i know would rather a shark field and superb changing rooms (which seems backwards).
But since we are on this topic - how about a bit of fun with a thread that was posted on the NRFL Forum.
1. Worst Changing Rooms
2. Worst Field
3. Worst Clubrooms
You can post the best ones as well if you want but that's not nearly as much fun.
Ellerslie have neither good changing rooms or good pitch
bang on with changing rooms mate.
Birkenheads Pitch dosent look like that anymore
Coast has a nice pitch - clubrooms are pretty good as well.
What's the ECB pitch like now, used to be a bit rank, like Keith Hay Park.
If Tuakau ever make it into NRFL I think they will top out the worst of these three categories.
Oh Jesus wept, last time I played in Tuakau we had to get changed in what looked like a community theatre rehearsal room among piles of junk. And the last time my sister-in-law played in Tuakau some oafish farm girl broke her ribs. :(
Ellerslie have neither good changing rooms or good pitch
bang on with changing rooms mate.
Honestly Tim, what is up with your showers? No privacy.
Ellerslie have neither good changing rooms or good pitch
bang on with changing rooms mate.
Honestly Tim, what is up with your showers? No privacy.
they were built in the 70's and we have spent the last 15 years fighting with council and local board(s) to get a new building - we are pretty close to be fair.
I went to watch Birkenhead United v Forest Hill pre season game on Saturday and am very concerned about the upcoming 'sin bin' trial!
If a player questions a referee's decision they are sent off the pitch for ten minutes. Apparently you can swear at a ref, as many of the Forest Hill players were doing, but if you ask why he made a certain decision and your not the captain you get sent to the sin bin!
I'm all for referees clamping down on swearing and I have no problem with a player getting a yellow card but I think its going to cause absolute chaos sending players off for ten minutes especially if, like on Saturday, the referee is making some very bizarre decisions!
PS. That's a polite way of saying he was appalling......
So if the ref gives a shark penalty and 5 players come up to complain to him they all get sin binned?
No they won't, so the application will be inconsistent. Which means the rule will become a farce.
Why is it so hard for rules to be given 5 minutes of thought by the people writing them?
Awful idea. Awful rule.
This isn't some dogshark sport like rugby ffs. Sin bins are a nonsense.
If a player abuses the ref then book him. If he's stupid enough to carry on send him off, for good.
The shorter this trial is the better.
Awful idea. Awful rule.
This isn't some dogshark sport like rugby ffs. Sin bins are a nonsense.
If a player abuses the ref then book him. If he's stupid enough to carry on send him off, for good.
The shorter this trial is the better.
Totally agree with this
Awful idea. Awful rule.
This isn't some dogshark sport like rugby ffs. Sin bins are a nonsense.
If a player abuses the ref then book him. If he's stupid enough to carry on send him off, for good.
The shorter this trial is the better.
Yeah. The framework is in place to deal with this, just takes ref to put a line down in the sand.
I’ve said this a few times before but rather than instant punishment in the way of sin bins, I think the way to go is increase the fines/bans for dissent each time a player is cautioned throughout the competition. First yellow a fine, second a bigger fine and a week off, third two weeks off etc or something along those lines. It doesn’t effect the game any more than it should but it’s a deterrent for what is a pretty ugly part of the game (same conversation can be had for diving, although harder to police.
Awful idea. Awful rule.
This isn't some dogshark sport like rugby ffs. Sin bins are a nonsense.
If a player abuses the ref then book him. If he's stupid enough to carry on send him off, for good.
The shorter this trial is the better.
Have been told that the Football South Fed not involved in the 'sin bin' trial this season which does seem to be a little strange when sides from other Federations will be playing Football South sides this season.
I’ve said this a few times before but rather than instant punishment in the way of sin bins, I think the way to go is increase the fines/bans for dissent each time a player is cautioned throughout the competition. First yellow a fine, second a bigger fine and a week off, third two weeks off etc or something along those lines. It doesn’t effect the game any more than it should but it’s a deterrent for what is a pretty ugly part of the game (same conversation can be had for diving, although harder to police.
but don't most clubs at this level pay fines anyway - so who are you hurting there?
I think we have an extreme problem with casual abuse of referee's (i am one of them) and while this is a extreme solution it's pleasing to see they are prepared to face the problem rather than ignore it.
I’ve said this a few times before but rather than instant punishment in the way of sin bins, I think the way to go is increase the fines/bans for dissent each time a player is cautioned throughout the competition. First yellow a fine, second a bigger fine and a week off, third two weeks off etc or something along those lines. It doesn’t effect the game any more than it should but it’s a deterrent for what is a pretty ugly part of the game (same conversation can be had for diving, although harder to police.
but don't most clubs at this level pay fines anyway - so who are you hurting there?
I think we have an extreme problem with casual abuse of referee's (i am one of them) and while this is a extreme solution it's pleasing to see they are prepared to face the problem rather than ignore it.
I’ve said this a few times before but rather than instant punishment in the way of sin bins, I think the way to go is increase the fines/bans for dissent each time a player is cautioned throughout the competition. First yellow a fine, second a bigger fine and a week off, third two weeks off etc or something along those lines. It doesn’t effect the game any more than it should but it’s a deterrent for what is a pretty ugly part of the game (same conversation can be had for diving, although harder to police.
but don't most clubs at this level pay fines anyway - so who are you hurting there?
I think we have an extreme problem with casual abuse of referee's (i am one of them) and while this is a extreme solution it's pleasing to see they are prepared to face the problem rather than ignore it.
totally agree - but there is a difference between a punishment on the field for a club and a financial punishment. and just taking a club POV here there are already way too many costs and fines etc without potentially having your yellow card fines for dissent double or triple.
That said i do believe that would make a difference but i guess I am coming from the point of what makes the most difference? And i think something extreme and radical like the sin bin might work - even if it only lasts the trial period and isn't implemented in 2019 it's still a serious message to players about referee behaviour.
So correct me if i'm wrong but you require a minimum of 7 players to start a game of footy? If that is the case then if 5 players get sin binned (far fetched i know) for dissent towards a ref during a match, in a confrontation scenario, and they each get 10 minutes in "the bin" all at once, does that mean the match is abandoned??
So correct me if i'm wrong but you require a minimum of 7 players to start a game of footy?
The home team needs to have at least 9 at kickoff, I believe.
A sin-bin is probably the most ridiculous concept to implement - refereeing is hard - I'll give them that, and I would never do it - but a sin-bin for questioning a decision? Precious. Keep this well out of football...and VAR too please.
A sin-bin is probably the most ridiculous concept to implement - refereeing is hard - I'll give them that, and I would never do it - but a sin-bin for questioning a decision? Precious. Keep this well out of football...and VAR too please.
A sin-bin is probably the most ridiculous concept to implement - refereeing is hard - I'll give them that, and I would never do it - but a sin-bin for questioning a decision? Precious. Keep this well out of football...and VAR too please.
Not everyone will agree with me on this - infact potentially most will not.
When NZF introduced a minimum 4 week ban and $200 fine for anyone who was red carded for what was supposed to "serious abuse of a match official" (or the infamous R14 code) it resulted in a couple of things.
1) Poor application of the punishment due to misunderstanding of the word serious from lower level referee's in lower leagues
2) The removal of the ability for a referee to red card a player for garden variety abuse (ie a one match ban) meant the top level referee's in the better leagues tended to ignore stuff that used to be a red card.
3) Officials at AFF admitting that the current tools at their disposal meant their referee's needed to have big eyes and small ears (their words)
So what was meant to be a tool to deal with serious abuse of an official meant that everyday abuse just wasn't being dealt with like it was before.
This has left us with a serious problem - one step would be to re-introduce a straight red for abuse of a match official with only the one match ban instead of the 4 match one. This would probably be too harsh a step to go straight to and would probably result in the small ears mentality we saw previously.
This new initiative while radical and from left field feels like to me an easy punishment that referee's can dish out to any player who feels he can have a crack and doesn't effect the overall game too much. It gives the referee the option of dealing with the verbal shark from players right from the 1st minute of the game.
Is it good for football? No - Is it needed? Yes probably.
Hopefully it's a radical enough change that the message hits home and it's not required to be rolled out to every level of football.
What we need for dissent is the BLUE CARD.
Players don't get dismissed for one (which would ruin the contest/spectacle).
But it goes on their misconduct record and adds to the points for which they cop a suspension.
Easy. Done
I would just have it as normal yellow card plus 10 on the sideline. The consequences are then rammed home. The only difference is that do it once, you get 10 on the sideline. Repeat it or as a second yellow, well you are getting sent off anyway prior to this sin bin rule so the only extra change would be 10 mins without a player.
If this is something they are serious about cleaning up, then they have to introduce it seriously.
There's such a thing as a BLACK card in Gaelic football, which you get for a cynical foul. You're sent off but you can be replaced. Maybe such a thing might be appropriate.
Saw my first 10 minute sin bin on Saturday.
Apparently swearing at the ref. Okay, whatever.
5 minutes later a player on a yellow card has a foul called against them, smashes the ball into the ground and sends a verbal tirade towards the ref. Probably due to the fact he was already on a yellow, the ref ignored it.
Not to mention the constant berating and swearing at linos which goes unpunished.
Nothing will change until the refs can consistently apply a punishment.
While trawling the NRFL Forums (which are a complete sharkshow) I did see one interesting post -
Someone at Manukau quite clearly calling a player a "Honkey." Anyone from Manukau United here?
The people at Phototek have started putting highlights of NRFL (men's and women's) games on YouTube.
On the bright side, this means the NRFL is now better promoted on social media than the ISPS Handy; on the other hand, I don't know who that excitable fellow they've got in to do commentary is. He shrieks when something interesting happens and starts muttering inaudibly when things get quiet.
The people at Phototek have started putting highlights of NRFL (men's and women's) games on YouTube.
On the bright side, this means the NRFL is now better promoted on social media than the ISPS Handy; on the other hand, I don't know who that excitable fellow they've got in to do commentary is. He shrieks when something interesting happens and starts muttering inaudibly when things get quiet.
Mark Casson?
While trawling the NRFL Forums (which are a complete sharkshow) I did see one interesting post -
Someone at Manukau quite clearly calling a player a "Honkey." Anyone from Manukau United here?
https://youtu.be/swodt1yuik0?t=4m53s
Three Kings women's coach just had to quit after the NRFL found out he didn't have the necessary (level 2) coaching badge.
Some are saying this is the same fetishisation of pieces of paper that led to the A. Heraf debacle. Others say there are too many coaches at higher levels who can't actually coach but can recruit players, and there needs to be some way to get more coaches who can actually coach into top clubs. Opinions?
While trawling the NRFL Forums (which are a complete sharkshow) I did see one interesting post -
Someone at Manukau quite clearly calling a player a "Honkey." Anyone from Manukau United here?
https://youtu.be/swodt1yuik0?t=4m53s
It's as clear as day mate...
Anyone know what happened to Daniel Ellensohn? Still playing for Glenfield?
Big interest in the promotion races to NRFL: not only are my 1st team squadmates (Onehunga Sports) playing off against the WaiBop champs for promotion, but so are my old Irish buddies at Bohemian Celtic.
If the latter succeed, this will be a huge boost for Bohs in their efforts to get their own ground/clubrooms (shared with the local Gaelic games association) and leave UniMount behind.
If the former succeed, I might be playing Prems Reserves next year. :D
First leg of NRFL Women promotion playoff: Onehunga Sports 8-0 Tauranga City
So that's, um, decisive
Soooooo... What happened in the Three Kings v Manukau match last night?