Southern Football (incl Southern United) (Part 1)

 

Bit of a rant with no real structure but a few points conveyed. Otago will never have a decent side that can consistently look superior to teams outside the Sth Island. Student player base, booze culture, throwing dave lamont pokey money down the toilet, crap imports etc.

 

 

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In saying that Otago did conceed alot of goals this season..I just cant see it being anyone other than Tech,cavvy,roslyn can you Dino?I think GI will take 4th and the champions league spot

hey back again guys..

Tech Tahuna park tonight at 6 be the or be square!

Been watching with interest the views on Otago United.
Here's my view
Changes need to happen from the top
The chair needs to move aside. The GM needs to go (although BVG has done a good job on reining him in). The coaches need to go and yes Steve Fleming deserves his chance as he has consistently got the best out of the players he has had available.
Some questions: Why has OU been paying the Tech coaches wages - for ostensibly coaching in the schools - but why him? Interesting that Chidley set this up as Fridge came into the country, despite OU spending 20k on the little irishman to set up an academy then never using him. He then made sure the two guys in post and available and in the schools were got rid of. Even this season when no longer with the team MR Fridge has still been paid by OU.
Where are the 2006/07 financial accounts? Amazing that they still haven't been produced, which is why BVG was brought in to 'supervise' where the money was going.
Why did the accountant on the board walk away?
Phelan's reputation as a player has given him more latitude than any other coach at any level in the world. He can't cope with the amateur player and has never got the best out of his squad. The squad this year was a good as any they've had since the start of the NZFC. Remember the year they reached the play-offs was with the same squad as the year before. The following season all but four of the squad left! Tells it's own story.

Best post so far on this forum - if the rest are this good im looking forward to seeing the next one!!! 

ABSOLUTE GOLD!!!

Truth will you be there at training or will you be square?

i like the cut of this mans jib

Team Big Fruit is going to smash everyone!

Truth...

Dino102009-03-03 16:34:03

I also think Cavvy and Tech are a different class to Roslyn but rosyln always seem to grind out dirty draws and win win oure grit and determination!

 

GI has made a couple good signing's and will make a serious push for top 4

 

Your pick on the top 3 order Dino?

League this year.... 1st roslyn 2nd cavy 3rd tech. I'll agree roslyn are a gritty side theres no doubt about that, cavy and tech in the past have playefd a more purist brand of football 

HorseHead why would this season be any different then the last 8? You are making the same mistakes many other people have made over the last few years. Rating your club too highly before the season starts is risky business, believe me I should know and have learnt my lesson. I think only a quiet achiever will have any chance of knocking Caversham off.

Truth, who are the decent signings out at GI that will make them any more than also rans?

karl schollour, andy coburn and nick tarrant

Also Brad Johnstine from Roslyn

With those 4 they will push hard for 4th

Truth..

 

I have talked to player�s out there and with no disrespect to Kevin it was just getting a bit stale out there and the team needed a change on environment to try and improve the team and go beyond the mid table team they have been over the last couple of years. In saying that I don�t truly believe you can go past the 3 teams you mentioned above and in my opinion having seen little to nothing at all that�s the order I think they will end up. As for Southland I think they will improve after a poor showing last year they have wee Barry Gardner in there ranks and he has also organized on of his friends from the UK to come over and strengthen the defending ranks so here�s hoping!

the three u suggested r joining GI will do nothing watsoever to improve GI. Great profile pic truth. GI need lance woods to step back in to the first team, a route one defender who could frustrate any opposition in his day

Horsehead Atherton would walk into your side Roslyn after not kicking a ball for a year no trouble in the world so to say he will do nothing to a side that struggled to score goals is ridiculous,Macraes is not bad same for Gun GI 1 Roslyn 0

I am also one that has been following closely this thread and also the OU thread. As a former player (not NZFC level) in Dunedin. It always amazes me how much rubbish people write without trying to get the  facts first .One of my closest friends has played at the highest level in Dunedin and aslo with OU. I remember him telling me a couple of years ago about the troubles they had with the squad. He said there was a big split between the Roslyn players and the rest. This he said was due to a percieved biased from the asst coach to his Roslyn players in the squad. He also stated that the atmosphere in the squad was crap because of this.I believe the atmosphere changed immensely when this person left. I believe he still coaches at Roslyn (might be wrong as im not currently in NZ).

 Also i just checked on the Incorporated Societies site and OU have filed their Annual Reports. I am also led to believe all Clubs have been handed a copy of all Annual Accounts at their AGM.

Also from my time in Dunners. Marc Chidley was around football in Dunedin then. I havent had nothing to do with the man as far as an administrator goes only played against him when he was well past his best.However my mate said that he thought that he tried his best to make things happen for OU in very difficult circumstances(does he still play for Tech). He is the GM and therefore surely answers to a Board?. I also see from the accounts. That he and D Lamont have given a rather large amount of their own money to OU as a loan. Can anybody confirm or am i reading them wrong. 

I just get the feeling that people are wanting to hang somebody and the Board and the GM are the ones getting it first.

Anyway enough of them. What is happening with the Soocersouth league. Is it going to be expanded and cover Canterbury aswell. I think you will all agree that the current set-up as a league is a far cry from were it could be. Is there going to be a South Island league and if so great. If not why not. CU and OU finshed last and second bottom. Is this due to not enough competition during the Winter league?

Anyway its a good thread and good to see the old rivalries are alive and well in Dunners.

 

Cmon you Varsity. Like the Phoenix. We will rise from the dead.    

Darth..

atherton would not walk into the roslyn side.... he is not of the quality of  hancock, dalman, brand and keats... thats a bullsh*t comment truth. As for roslyn players causing a divide in OU thats rubbish also, more unsubstantiated claim. Gun was phelans experiment at OU and was woeful...macris has spent 5years pissing it up with braes tho I will admit he is a good signing for GI and probably will be their best player (If he can remain on the pitch) horseshead212009-03-04 11:19:07

Horsehead 21

fair call darth cheers for that

thetruthnz2009-03-04 11:49:51

Darth Vader you are many miles away. No the clubs have not been handed a copy of the accounts at the AGM for 2006. The figures on the 2007 submission are incorrect and the clubs were informed that the correct figures would follow. The franchise has to submit a copy of each years finances as a stand alone item and not part of another years - hence 2005 and 2007 are there but not 2006. The board needs a shake up - the chair could move sideways for fresh blood. The GM for the same reasons as the franchise is stagnating and not moving forward. The finances are not in place to attract quality players who earn their living through coaching to enable them to play in the amateur NZFC.
Who are the board? Lamont, Chidley, Barnsie(I'll put the nets up)- Button,Adam resigned.
The fact that the chair and GM have had to lend money to the franchise speaks volume for the ability of those two individuals to ensure that the correct level of finances have been put into place. Supports my contention they should go.
The 2006/07 season was the first time all the players received remuneration. This was the cause of the atmosphere as the players never knew when they were going to be paid nor how much and indeed had to go asking the GM on several occasions. I believe there were only two Roslyn players in the squad, Boylan and Eisenhut and Eisenhut spent most of it injured. I know the coach you are speaking of and bias is not something you would accuse him of, brutal honesty maybe. The squad was basically Tech players, Deeley, Fleming, Boylan imports - particularly after xmas when webster, Mcgrenaghan left.
Facts are something I hold dear and I did my homework.

Yeahright

Can someone plz tell me why ant Handcock is rated so highly??? could it possibly be because he is a Roslyn player

Yeh hes got nothing on mr soccer

I believe even though he is a defender Mr Soccer would have scored more goals than ant in the last Spl season, if you played him in any attacking position. an out and out striker scoring 9 goals in a fifteen match season is horrible, epically when you have the likes of grants braes and northen to play.
F**k roslyn they are Twits

Ant is ok..And thats about it!He looked good at SC because the were a sh*t team.But 9 goals would almost earn playeer of the year at Roslyn to be fair

where can u not play Mr Soccer?? he is a complete one man team

To be honest i have seen him in goal and he isnt the best..... however in saying that he would do better than most goalies in the league.... FACT!

When does the pre season cup start?any news on who plays who..

its a bit rubbish how politics dictate team selection. coming up in the grades it always seemed if you were say the son of one of the selectors you'd always make the rep teams even if you were pies and couldn't play for nuts.

you guys would know better than me and from what i read in your posts it doesn't sound like the team gels well off the field and you have a split along winter club lines. you reckon this wouuld have anything to do with poor performances on the pitch?

just throwing it out there