You're also rather harsh. Carmichael is hardly ineffectual. Patterson has quality, hence Ipswich Academy. Rufer certainly is the pick of the bunch though
He (Carmichael) ain't doing much for Central at the mo.
I do think Carmichael is a good and better footballer. I think playing at Central/ACFC, he gets lost behind others (Tade, Corrales, Exposito, Danko, Dickinson. Not one Kiwi name in them) and he plays on the flank at Central as opposed to where he normally plays as a striker. Not sure where his best position is but he has a lot more than Patterson does. Granted the comparison is not fair because of the age but considering the 2 times I have seen him this year, he has been quiet, got on and done the job, produced some quality and given away very few fouls and possession.
Sure, Carmichael is quality. But for a guy who scored an international hat-trick in the Under-17's (then joked about maybe joining Arsenal) he's been staying a bit too quiet for me.
When is the world cup squad announced?
will we be going with the deep lying mid set up for our qualifiers like against china (that seemed to work very well, Dan Keat seemed comfortable) or go back to the wingbacks/three defenders and strikers in center mid position shambles?
wrong thread sorry.
With exciting young talent like Alex Rufer emerging from the u-17's and picking up pro contracts, really looking forward now to watching the FIFA u-17 World Cup in October (hopefully on Sky) to see how they go:
http://www.fifa.com/u17worldcup/news/newsid=2134856/index.html
While results at UAE 2013 are one thing, recent evidence is that the U-17 team as a development vehicle is paying significant dividends. During New Zealand’s final 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil™ qualifiers in March, 14 squad member had previously featured at either an U-17 or U-20 FIFA World Cup since 2007, compared to only three in Ricki Herbert’s squad at the same stage last time.
"I think sometimes we underestimate the quality of players we are developing in New Zealand,” says Bazeley. “Players who have come from overseas are surprised with the standard and it's higher than what they were expecting.”
(On 26 August, the qualified countries will find out which sides stand between them and glory at the Official Draw)
Any idea when the squad will be announced??
i remember suffering a similar fate in 1996 even though i was smoking my opposite and eventual NZ rep. #stillbitter ha
i remember suffering a similar fate in 1996 even though i was smoking my opposite and eventual NZ rep. #stillbitter ha
i remember suffering a similar fate in 1996 even though i was smoking my opposite and eventual NZ rep. #stillbitter ha
pretty much the same reason you mentioned your demise many years after it happened in 1996........ weirdo.......
pretty much the same reason you mentioned your demise many years after it happened in 1996........ weirdo.......
Italy, Uruguay and Ivory Coast in our group. oh dear.
Oh come on 2B. It's a great draw. Testing ourselves against the big boys means:
a) if we get smashed we can say football has still got a long way to go in this small rugby mad nation at the end of the world and give us the chance to discuss how poor our development pathway is;
b) we get close or a result and we can talk about how great our youth development progamme is in this "punch above its weight football burgeoning country"
Surely, it's a win-win either way ;)
Oh come on 2B. It's a great draw. Testing ourselves against the big boys means:
a) if we get smashed we can say football has still got a long way to go in this small rugby mad nation at the end of the world and give us the chance to discuss how poor our development pathway is;
b) we get close or a result and we can talk about how great our youth development progamme is in this "punch above its weight football burgeoning country"
Surely, it's a win-win either way ;)
Been hearing the same thing for thirty years.
Which is why it makes great forum fodder ;)
Which is why it makes great forum fodder ;)
True. For past results of Junior All Whites and Youth All Whites see www.ultimatenzsoccer.com website.
Ras Al-Khaimah will be a bit of an eye opener... not exactly Dubai!!! and then a long haul down to Abu Dhabi for the last game... will be a demanding week all round
Strange how our youf sides always get drawn against Uruguay - it's so regular you could make money betting on it. Last two under-20 World Cups anyway and now these u-17's.
Toughest draw you could imagine really but will attract more NZ media attention as countries except the obvious football bastions don't register with the NZ media...and anyone who follows world football will realise that Ivory Coast breeds some great players.
The other groups don't seem to feature three teams of great ability such as we are facing:
Brazil will face host country United Arab Emirates, Honduras and Slovakia.
Defending champion Mexico with Iraq, Nigeria and Sweden.
Argentina is in a group with Austria, Canada and Iran. European Under-17 champion Russia will face Japan, Tunisia and Venezuela. Croatia will play Morocco, Panama and Uzbekistan.
And no Australia - ha, ha!!!
Strange how our youf sides always get drawn against Uruguay - it's so regular you could make money betting on it. Last two under-20 World Cups anyway and now these u-17's.
Toughest draw you could imagine really but will attract more NZ media attention as countries except the obvious football bastions don't register with the NZ media...and anyone who follows world football will realise that Ivory Coast breeds some great players.
The other groups don't seem to feature three teams of great ability such as we are facing:
Brazil will face host country United Arab Emirates, Honduras and Slovakia.
Defending champion Mexico with Iraq, Nigeria and Sweden.
Argentina is in a group with Austria, Canada and Iran. European Under-17 champion Russia will face Japan, Tunisia and Venezuela. Croatia will play Morocco, Panama and Uzbekistan.
And no Australia - ha, ha!!!
Strange how our youf sides always get drawn against Uruguay - it's so regular you could make money betting on it. Last two under-20 World Cups anyway and now these u-17's.
Toughest draw you could imagine really but will attract more NZ media attention as countries except the obvious football bastions don't register with the NZ media...and anyone who follows world football will realise that Ivory Coast breeds some great players.
The other groups don't seem to feature three teams of great ability such as we are facing:
Brazil will face host country United Arab Emirates, Honduras and Slovakia.
Defending champion Mexico with Iraq, Nigeria and Sweden.
Argentina is in a group with Austria, Canada and Iran. European Under-17 champion Russia will face Japan, Tunisia and Venezuela. Croatia will play Morocco, Panama and Uzbekistan.
And no Australia - ha, ha!!!The team must be getting close to being announced now.
Do they get any warm up game before hand?
I don't get this. I thought it was the U17s who are paying ..not the U20s?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9194995/Pay-to-play-not-OK-says-top-NZ-coach-Milicich
Can't argue with him there.
milicich has really served it up to fred there hasn't he!?
good to hear some straight talking in NZ sport for a change and also interesting to hear about the poor budgeting practice
danny hay has had a go too...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9194767/Hay-Revolt-is-brewing-over-NZFs-pay-to-play
They need to hurry up and name the squad as well.
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
Any idea if the girls are going to get stung here? Fred inferred they would be on the podcast but then kind of contradicted it
They need to hurry up and name the squad as well.
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
Yeah I would mate and have done! I don't feel the need to be paid for something that I love doing!
Did wynton pay the old guy in wellington that was down at the ground with him every day?? (not likely).
I think it is BS that these coaches are getting paid but would rather FTC coaches then the many that are getting it at junior clubs, I heard one club on the shore charges about $750 per player a season for a "professional" coach! clubs have full time "coach development, player development" jobs thats where its going wrong!
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
Yeah I would mate and have done! I don't feel the need to be paid for something that I love doing!
Did wynton pay the old guy in wellington that was down at the ground with him every day?? (not likely).
I think it is BS that these coaches are getting paid but would rather FTC coaches then the many that are getting it at junior clubs, I heard one club on the shore charges about $750 per player a season for a "professional" coach! clubs have full time "coach development, player development" jobs thats where its going wrong!
so no training because they don't know the squad?
Hay is right to bring up FTC costs etc on the way but still why the demarcation is the World Cup? If pay to play is inherently wrong than FTC / NTC / Reps should be "free".
How much does Danny charge for his coaching? People seem to these FTC are all about making money! Think the like of wyrners and herbert any other private academies are all about making money!
Yeah I would mate and have done! I don't feel the need to be paid for something that I love doing!
Did wynton pay the old guy in wellington that was down at the ground with him every day?? (not likely).
I think it is BS that these coaches are getting paid but would rather FTC coaches then the many that are getting it at junior clubs, I heard one club on the shore charges about $750 per player a season for a "professional" coach! clubs have full time "coach development, player development" jobs thats where its going wrong!
If I have to pay to play on bishop park, these guys can pay to play at a World Cup. It's not that much of an outrage. They aren't exactly royalty.
napier phoenix may know the answer to this, but i'm pretty sure that there was a time when napier city rovers players had to pay gate entry for national league games in order to show that they were partof the club community.or was this an urban mhyth?
Sorry don't know the answer to that reg. I'm not a Rovers man and have only been back here since the demise of the National League.
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