Still Believin'
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Oh well, at least News can go finish his lunch now...
 
 
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yea i've been super surprised at how good these guys are, a golden generation on it's way? Too early to tell?
 
Does anyone have a link to old U17 team lists i.e. i'd love to know how many of these guys actually graduate to senior caps?
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WTF.How come they can waste time with subs and injury and not get it added?

So Group D very even, equal top on the group table
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Thought we should have had a freekick on the edge of the box or a penalty for the challange that resulted in the Czech boy going off injured near the end.

Even though we lost we dominated for large parts of the 2nd half and I am pretty impressed with the skill level of some of our guys. At times we were knocking the ball around very well and on another day the Czech keeper wouldn't have saved those shots.
 
If the boys can keep improving ove rthe next fews years we are going to have some good players coming through for the All Whites.
 
Going down  down 1-0 to one of the top U17 sides in Europe is no disgrace especially as the goal was a cracker. Well done to the boys and the coaching staff.
 
I wouldn't put it past us to nick a draw with the USA
 
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how are the permutations looking for us to make the second round even if we lose to USA?
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Uzbeks and Czechs would need to draw and no. of goals scored would count in both games?RedGed2011-06-23 13:09:49
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RedGed wrote:

Uzbeks and Czechs would need to draw and no. of goals scored would count in both games?


No. We would finish 4th with a loss + UZB/CZE draw.
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USA 3 - 0 Czech
Uzbek 1 - 4 NZ
USA 1 - 2 Uzbek
Czech 1 - 0 NZ
 
Table:
Group D Team MP W D L GF GA Pts New Zealand 2 1 0 1 4 2 3 USA 2 1 0 1 4 2 3 Uzbekistan 2 1 0 1 3 5 3 Czech Republic 2 1 0 1 1 3 3
 
Woof Woof
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KingRollo wrote:
paulm wrote:
our keeper sounds good at this tourney - how big is he? If he dont have size he'll never get anywhere


Coey Turipa was outstanding at the previous U17 World Cup. Pathway for young keepers in New Zealand isn't the greatest. Older goalkeepers are always going to dominate game time in the senior grades


Basalaj > daylight > Turipa

In fact I feel dirty just mentioning them in the same post.
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What I meant was, how is 3 points looking in terms of a best 3rd placed finish?

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TouchMe wrote:
Much improved second half - where was it in the first half?
 
Their keeper won the game for them.
 
Our RB man of the match for me - looks really good going forward.
 
if only he could have had the same game he had against the USA.
 
Who's going to Four Kings on sunday?
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ooh is our last game on sunday? Thats awesome, what time is KO?
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paulm wrote:
ooh is our last game on sunday? Thats awesome, what time is KO?
 
 

USA v New Zealand 

LIVE - Sunday 26th June, 10.45am, SKY Sport 3

Replay - Sunday 26th June, 7.00pm, SKY Sport 3

Replay - Monday 27th June, 10.30am, SKY Sport 1

(only 2 replays of this match, whereas Czech Republic gets 4 replays )
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paulm wrote:

What I meant was, how is 3 points looking in terms of a best 3rd placed finish?



Hard to tell at this stage, as only one round's been played in Groups E and F. Will have a better idea this time tomorrow.

3rd placed teams in Groups A and C have 1 point each, but both could potentially get to 4 points after the last round considering their fixtures. To be expected that 3rd placed team in group B will end up with more than 3 points.
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paulm wrote:

What I meant was, how is 3 points looking in terms of a best 3rd placed finish?



Goals scored would then count for Kiwis in best  of 3rd place getters?
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well if the uzbeks beat US then our lads must have confidence that they can get a result on sunday, especially with today's 2nd half performance.
 
CMON NZ
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RedGed wrote:

paulm wrote:

What I meant was, how is 3 points looking in terms of a best 3rd placed finish?

Goals scored would then count for Kiwis in best� of 3rd place getters?


In order:

Highest number of points
Goal difference
Number of goals scored
Drawing of lots
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If we draw with the USA is there a possibility of a penalty shootout a la Turkey-Czech Republic in Euro 08?
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Thought some pretty good performances and some bloody ave one's. Left back was shocking and rhys jordan in the middle was crape. Thought Edge did well and run himself into the ground. Payne looked good in second half.
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Buffon II wrote:
If we draw with the USA is there a possibility of a penalty shootout a la Turkey-Czech Republic in Euro 08?


No, that was the UEFA idea.

If we're equal with the US on points, goal difference and goals scored, there will be drawing of lots to determine who finishes where.
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el grapadura wrote:
Buffon II wrote:
If we draw with the USA is there a possibility of a penalty shootout a la Turkey-Czech Republic in Euro 08?


No, that was the UEFA idea.

If we're equal with the US on points, goal difference and goals scored, there will be drawing of lots to determine who finishes where.


Ah ok. Cheers for clearing it up EG.
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DESTINY IS IN OUR OWN HANDS
 
highlights here
 
That Czech keeper had the Paston game against Italy.  DAMN HIM!
George Costanza2011-06-23 13:54:17
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el grapadura wrote:
KingRollo wrote:
paulm wrote:
our keeper sounds good at this tourney - how big is he? If he dont have size he'll never get anywhere


Coey Turipa was outstanding at the previous U17 World Cup. Pathway for young keepers in New Zealand isn't the greatest. Older goalkeepers are always going to dominate game time in the senior grades


Basalaj > daylight > Turipa

In fact I feel dirty just mentioning them in the same post.


Shut up about Nelson players. Yawn!
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George Kostanza wrote:
paulm wrote:
ooh is our last game on sunday? Thats awesome, what time is KO?
 
 

USA v New Zealand 

LIVE - Sunday 26th June, 10.45am, SKY Sport 3

Replay - Sunday 26th June, 7.00pm, SKY Sport 3

Replay - Monday 27th June, 10.30am, SKY Sport 1

(only 2 replays of this match, whereas Czech Republic gets 4 replays )
 
how hard is it for Sky to get basic information correct? semis and final are not in June!!
 
 
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Bit of a dream, but wouldnt it be great if these players and the Under 20 players continued to commit to improving their football over the next decade rather than giving it away or being tempted to lower grades through cash incentives. Not always possible of course.
 
 
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Group A Team MP W D L GF GA Pts Mexico 2 2 0 0 5 2 6 Congo 2 1 0 1 2 2 3 Netherlands 2 0 1 1 1 2 1 Korea DPR 2 0 1 1 2 4 1

Mexico through.  Could be either Congo, Netherlands or Korea DPR.  Last game Mexico v Netherlands and Congo plays Korea DPR.


Group B Team MP W D L GF GA Pts France 2 1 1 0 4 1 4 Japan 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 Argentina 2 1 0 1 2 4 3 Jamaica 2 0 0 2 1 3 0 Jamaica gone.  Jamaica plays France and Japan plays Argentina.  I think France and Argentina will go through.
Group C Team MP W D L GF GA Pts Uruguay 2 2 0 0 4 0 6 England 2 1 1 0 4 2 4 Canada 2 0 1 1 2 5 1 Rwanda 2 0 0 2 0 3 0
 
Uruguay def through.  Their last game is against England.  Should be a cracker.  Rwanda is out.  If Canada beat Rwanda by a huge margin could be interesting if England lose to Uruguay.
 
Group D Team MP W D L GF GA Pts New Zealand 2 1 0 1 4 2 3 USA 2 1 0 1 4 2 3 Uzbekistan 2 1 0 1 3 5 3 Czech Republic 2 1 0 1 1 3 3

Too close to call and far too emotionally involved.


Group E Team MP W D L GF GA Pts Germany 1 1 0 0 6 1 3 Panama 1 1 0 0 1 0 3 Burkina Faso 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 Ecuador 1 0 0 1 1 6 0

Germany for sure, undecided on the 2nd team.


Group F Team MP W D L GF GA Pts Brazil 1 1 0 0 3 0 3 Australia 1 1 0 0 2 1 3 C�te d'Ivoire 1 0 0 1 1 2 0 Denmark 1 0 0 1 0 3 0
 
Have to say Brazil and kinda hope the Aussies go through too.
 
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USA vs NZ ........ suddenly reminded me of the USA vs England clash this time last year in the World Cup - watched the game in a crowded pub in England and I don't think I've ever seen a lively pub atmosphere dissipate so quickly.
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HarryHotspur wrote:
Wasn't much different in the 4 kings
i'unno. CboZ, myself, and a couple Americans we met had a great time!
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USA v NZ -  Why not? We beat Uzbekistan and Uzbekistan beat US so .....you can do it, Young All Whites!
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<TABLE ="groupstandings normal " summary="Group Group A">
<CAPTION>Group A</CAPTION>
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<TR>
<TH =l>Team</TH>
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<TD =l>Mexico</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>5</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>6</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Congo</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Netherlands</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Korea DPR</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
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<P =" last ">Mexico through.� Could be either Congo, Netherlands or Korea DPR.� Last game Mexico v Netherlands and Congo plays Korea DPR.
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<TH><ABBR title=Lost>L</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals For">GF</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals Against">GA</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Points>Pts</ABBR></TH></TR></T>
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<TR =odd>
<TD =l>France</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Japan</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Argentina</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Jamaica</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<UL =qLInline>
<LI =" last ">MatchesJamaica gone.� Jamaica plays France and Japan plays Argentina.� I think France and Argentina will go through.

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<CAPTION>Group C</CAPTION>
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<TH><ABBR title=Won>W</ABBR></TH>
<TH =d><ABBR title=Draw>D</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Lost>L</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals For">GF</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals Against">GA</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Points>Pts</ABBR></TH></TR></T>
<T>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Uruguay</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>6</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>England</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Canada</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>5</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Rwanda</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<DIV =tGroupDetail>�
<DIV =tGroupDetail>Uruguay def through.� Their last game is against England.� Should be a cracker.� Rwanda is out.� If Canada beat Rwanda by a huge margin could be interesting if England lose to Uruguay.
<DIV =tGroupDetail>�
<DIV =tGroupDetail>
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<CAPTION>Group D</CAPTION>
<T>
<TR>
<TH =l>Team</TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Played>MP</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Won>W</ABBR></TH>
<TH =d><ABBR title=Draw>D</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Lost>L</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals For">GF</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals Against">GA</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Points>Pts</ABBR></TH></TR></T>
<T>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>New Zealand</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>USA</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>4</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Uzbekistan</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>5</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Czech Republic</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<P =" last ">Too close to call and far too emotionally involved.
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<DIV =tGroupDetail>
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<CAPTION>Group E</CAPTION>
<T>
<TR>
<TH =l>Team</TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Played>MP</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Won>W</ABBR></TH>
<TH =d><ABBR title=Draw>D</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Lost>L</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals For">GF</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals Against">GA</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Points>Pts</ABBR></TH></TR></T>
<T>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Germany</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>6</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Panama</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Burkina Faso</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Ecuador</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>6</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<P =" last ">Germany for sure, undecided on the 2nd team.
<DIV =tGroupDetail>
<DIV =tGroupDetail>
<TABLE ="groupstandings normal " summary="Group Group F">
<CAPTION>Group F</CAPTION>
<T>
<TR>
<TH =l>Team</TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Played>MP</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Won>W</ABBR></TH>
<TH =d><ABBR title=Draw>D</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Lost>L</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals For">GF</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title="Goals Against">GA</ABBR></TH>
<TH><ABBR title=Points>Pts</ABBR></TH></TR></T>
<T>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>Brazil</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Australia</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD></TR>
<TR =odd>
<TD =l>C�te d'Ivoire</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>2</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR>
<TR =even>
<TD =l>Denmark</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>1</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD>
<TD =c>3</TD>
<TD =c>0</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
<DIV =tGroupDetail>�
<DIV =tGroupDetail>Have to say Brazil and kinda hope the Aussies go through too.
<DIV =tGroupDetail>�

the four best third-place finishers go through as well, still heaps of teams with everything to play for.
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Brazil 1 - 0 Australia  FT. For 75 mins Aussies competed well, and Brazil looked pretty ordinary, tbh.  From a needless foul from Australia just outside the box Adryan scored with a classic Brazilian set piece goal... and that was largely it. Brazilians perked up from then on, Aussies a little deflated and very tired, nothing much from there til the end.
RedGed2011-06-24 14:59:19
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Looks like a very exciting game between Ivory Coast and Denmark, 3-2 at HT.

Ivorians - 21 shots, 12 on target just in the first half!

Denmark scored two goals from their only two shots on target.
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This is the same side that lost to Real Salt Lake U18 right?
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